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Light · 12-25-2003, 02:07 PM

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Hello Catalyst.

Can you tell me just why it is that the Israelis ARE fighting in the "holy" land, and just who is it that says that they must do so?

What is "holy" about this place, and what does "holy" mean to you? Why is everyone not living in peace?

Why don't they fight/help in Africa or just go to Australia?

Why do these people wander about all over the planet anyway?

What is all of this nonsense about Jacob's trouble got to do with anything especially science?

Belief is Egyptian and scientific and NOT this load of old nonsense.

ex-xian · 12-25-2003, 05:37 PM

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Can you tell me just why it is that the Israelis ARE fighting in the "holy" land, and just who is it that says that they must do so?

They fight because they feel that their property is being infringed upon by the Palestinians.

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What is "holy" about this place, and what does "holy" mean to you? Why is everyone not living in peace?

It's "holy" because the land is especially significant to three major religions. Holy means sacred or worthy of devotion.

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Why don't they fight/help in Africa or just go to Australia?

Because they feel that the land is historically theirs by divine right.

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Why do these people wander about all over the planet anyway?

Because of the diaspora and the holocaust[/b][/quote]

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What is all of this nonsense about Jacob's trouble got to do with anything especially science?

Belief is Egyptian and scientific and NOT this load of old nonsense.

Maybe I missed it another thread, but what exactly are you talking about?

Light · 12-26-2003, 02:33 AM

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Originally posted by Light
Can you tell me just why it is that the Israelis ARE fighting in the "holy" land, and just who is it that says that they must do so?

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They fight because they feel that their property is being infringed upon by the Palestinians.

I seem to remember that the Palestinians were there first. i.e. When the country was called Palestine and was a British Protectorate.

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What is "holy" about this place, and what does "holy" mean to you? Why is everyone not living in peace?
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It's "holy" because the land is especially significant to three major religions. Holy means sacred or worthy of devotion.

And mumbo-jumbo is a thing of WORTHLESS veneration and the deliberate use of evil is contrary to God.

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Why don't they fight/help in Africa or just go to Australia?
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Because they feel that the land is historically theirs by divine right.

"The land". What "land"? The "promised" land? The land of milk and honey? What do these celibate hol(e)y men think women are? Some sort of hol(e)y cow, which gives milk, to be prostituted by these unholy devils in their pursuit of "hole-i-ness"?

Church "sponsored" sexual activity. Sexual favours in return for worship? Hol(e)y men???

This place, this hol(e)y land is a representation of the female crotch. Hence it is referred to as hole(y). The Sea of Galilee represents the anus and the Dead Sea represents the vagina. Sodom and Gomorah. "A crotch for the masses".What does ANY of this have to do with science, especially thermodynamics?

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Why do these people wander about all over the planet anyway?
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Because of the diaspora and the holocaust.

What does the diaspora have to do with the Logical And Logistical running of the planet by a self-sustaining population? If the Jewish people had been offered Australia, long ago, then this "vexed question" of their PLAYING the "role" of satan would NEVER have arisen. You will see why it is that I agree with Dr. Steven Weinberg. This is ALL a COMPLETE LOT of UTTER NONSENSE which has been contrived by EVIL people.

The Dead Sea also represents "LOT's Wife" in that it is turning to salt. Again, what has this to do with the correct regulation and running of the planet according to PRACTICAL considerations rather than "religious" stupidity? A stupidity which encourages people to have more children than the planet can support. See recent allowance for family planning and the single child (first born) role model. (Christ) Who should have had BROTHERS amongst His fellow men and NOT called priests and rabbis father. (Matthew 23:27) As NONE of these priests and rabbis are YOUR father then they have NO jurisdiction over you. Nor has ANY church. Only God. Be your OWN God. (But behave like one.

Following Isis & Osiris you would HAVE to be Married rather than be one of these lustful priests. Greedy for their OWN power over you.)

NO man shall make himself the "master" of another, nor shall ANY man take the name of THE LORD GOD in his own vanity. When you have seen these you have NOT seen The Father, Ptah (Pater, Father), Creator of Heaven and Earth. Ask your local priest or rabbbi to Create you a Universe.

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What is all of this nonsense about Jacob's trouble got to do with anything, especially science?

Belief is Egyptian and scientific and NOT this load of old nonsense.
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Maybe I missed it (in) another thread, but what exactly are you talking about?

What does all of this nonsense have to do with running a planet successfully? Why has the population increased from 2�0 billion to 6�0 billion in order to do this simple task? Who has IRRESPONSIBLY done this to the people who live here? Why do they think that there is room for ANOTHER 80�0 billion?

I suggest it is because they are insane, evil and stupid, and that the people of this world are dealing with a number of megalomaniacs who only think about themselves and their individual "power", and who have never fully considered the plight of the people at any time. Given the trillions spend on ABC WMD instead of PROPER REgulation and given the population increase I suggest that you are looking at a pending disaster.

What does all of this have to do with God's design for there to be a Heaven on Earth? Is this not much more like hell for the vast majority of the poor oppressed and "religiously" persecuted? If there were NONE of this false religion then NOBODY could be persecuted in this way and Christ could NOT have been persecuted either. At the moment sectarian groups are persecuting and terrorising each other. (Beloved of FALSE "religion".) Christ had NO religion. He founded one.

Open your eyes to the REST of the World and you too WILL see.

EVERYONE is SUPPOSED to be living in PEACE and HARMONY. I can see NO evidence of this being the fact.

You should look at the Internet for Jacob's Trouble. Yet MORE "religious" nonsense.

We do NOT want trouble-makers here. Neither here nor anywhere else!

We want you ALL to live in peace.

Thank you.

I wish you ALL a Happy and Prosperous New Year.

Mediancat · 12-26-2003, 05:33 AM

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12-25-2003, 02:07 PM	#1
Light Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Here, There & Everywhere Posts: 1,253	Catalyst Moderator Hello Catalyst. Can you tell me just why it is that the Israelis ARE fighting in the "holy" land, and just who is it that says that they must do so? What is "holy" about this place, and what does "holy" mean to you? Why is everyone not living in peace? Why don't they fight/help in Africa or just go to Australia? Why do these people wander about all over the planet anyway? What is all of this nonsense about Jacob's trouble got to do with anything especially science? Belief is Egyptian and scientific and NOT this load of old nonsense.

12-26-2003, 02:33 AM	#3
Light Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Here, There & Everywhere Posts: 1,253	quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Light Can you tell me just why it is that the Israelis ARE fighting in the "holy" land, and just who is it that says that they must do so? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They fight because they feel that their property is being infringed upon by the Palestinians. I seem to remember that the Palestinians were there first. i.e. When the country was called Palestine and was a British Protectorate. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What is "holy" about this place, and what does "holy" mean to you? Why is everyone not living in peace? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's "holy" because the land is especially significant to three major religions. Holy means sacred or worthy of devotion. And mumbo-jumbo is a thing of WORTHLESS veneration and the deliberate use of evil is contrary to God. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why don't they fight/help in Africa or just go to Australia? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because they feel that the land is historically theirs by divine right. "The land". What "land"? The "promised" land? The land of milk and honey? What do these celibate hol(e)y men think women are? Some sort of hol(e)y cow, which gives milk, to be prostituted by these unholy devils in their pursuit of "hole-i-ness"? Church "sponsored" sexual activity. Sexual favours in return for worship? Hol(e)y men??? This place, this hol(e)y land is a representation of the female crotch. Hence it is referred to as hole(y). The Sea of Galilee represents the anus and the Dead Sea represents the vagina. Sodom and Gomorah. "A crotch for the masses".What does ANY of this have to do with science, especially thermodynamics? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why do these people wander about all over the planet anyway? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because of the diaspora and the holocaust. What does the diaspora have to do with the Logical And Logistical running of the planet by a self-sustaining population? If the Jewish people had been offered Australia, long ago, then this "vexed question" of their PLAYING the "role" of satan would NEVER have arisen. You will see why it is that I agree with Dr. Steven Weinberg. This is ALL a COMPLETE LOT of UTTER NONSENSE which has been contrived by EVIL people. The Dead Sea also represents "LOT's Wife" in that it is turning to salt. Again, what has this to do with the correct regulation and running of the planet according to PRACTICAL considerations rather than "religious" stupidity? A stupidity which encourages people to have more children than the planet can support. See recent allowance for family planning and the single child (first born) role model. (Christ) Who should have had BROTHERS amongst His fellow men and NOT called priests and rabbis father. (Matthew 23:27) As NONE of these priests and rabbis are YOUR father then they have NO jurisdiction over you. Nor has ANY church. Only God. Be your OWN God. (But behave like one. Following Isis & Osiris you would HAVE to be Married rather than be one of these lustful priests. Greedy for their OWN power over you.) NO man shall make himself the "master" of another, nor shall ANY man take the name of THE LORD GOD in his own vanity. When you have seen these you have NOT seen The Father, Ptah (Pater, Father), Creator of Heaven and Earth. Ask your local priest or rabbbi to Create you a Universe. quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What is all of this nonsense about Jacob's trouble got to do with anything, especially science? Belief is Egyptian and scientific and NOT this load of old nonsense. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe I missed it (in) another thread, but what exactly are you talking about? What does all of this nonsense have to do with running a planet successfully? Why has the population increased from 2�0 billion to 6�0 billion in order to do this simple task? Who has IRRESPONSIBLY done this to the people who live here? Why do they think that there is room for ANOTHER 80�0 billion? I suggest it is because they are insane, evil and stupid, and that the people of this world are dealing with a number of megalomaniacs who only think about themselves and their individual "power", and who have never fully considered the plight of the people at any time. Given the trillions spend on ABC WMD instead of PROPER REgulation and given the population increase I suggest that you are looking at a pending disaster. What does all of this have to do with God's design for there to be a Heaven on Earth? Is this not much more like hell for the vast majority of the poor oppressed and "religiously" persecuted? If there were NONE of this false religion then NOBODY could be persecuted in this way and Christ could NOT have been persecuted either. At the moment sectarian groups are persecuting and terrorising each other. (Beloved of FALSE "religion".) Christ had NO religion. He founded one. Open your eyes to the REST of the World and you too WILL see. EVERYONE is SUPPOSED to be living in PEACE and HARMONY. I can see NO evidence of this being the fact. You should look at the Internet for Jacob's Trouble. Yet MORE "religious" nonsense. We do NOT want trouble-makers here. Neither here nor anywhere else! We want you ALL to live in peace. Thank you. I wish you ALL a Happy and Prosperous New Year.

12-26-2003, 05:33 AM	#4
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