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You know, someone compiled a book kinda like this a few years ago, touching on the different manifestations of religion and spirituality in America. It was an interesting read... profiled everything from Sunni Islam to swing jazz and the people who found religious signifigance in each
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Not that you'd get many here to admit this, but there is a signifigant number of atheists on this board who do have a very large chip on their shoulder regarding all things religious. Sometimes it's subtle, sometimes not so subtle. There are those whose faith is in naturalism and/or the scientific method; that all questions concerning the human existence will be answered in a scholarly fashion by intellectuals. There are those whose faith is in humanity and the ability of rational people to work out their differences intelligently and peacefully. There are those whose faith is in nature itself, that the processes that shape our world and our existence have provided us with everything we need for a full and satisfying life. There ar those whose faith is in a higher power that they can feel but not see, something expressed to them through ancient books or the traditions of some religious faction somewhere. There are those whose faith is in pleasure and sensation, and believe the best things in life are the things that please them and satisfy their desires. There are those whose faith is in imagination and creativity, and who believe all of their problems and goals can be reached through ingenuity and imaginationl; they create new tools and new devices to solve old problems in amazing new ways. There are those whose faith is in money and capital, as if all of the world's problems can be solved by having enough financial resources to purchase a solution. There are those whose faith is in themselves, their own competance and their own ability, the power to live life in whatever way they see fit and their ability to get what they want, when they want it. Depending on the person, you might find alot of animosity from a person of one faith against a person of any other. Occasionally, one may even see this behavior from atheists, whose faith in whatever is deemed superior and more desireable for some reason than someone else's faith in whateverelse. They're more agressive in this behavior at II than they would be otherwise, for the same reason Christian/Islamic/whatever fundamentalists are more agressive on their own message boards than they would be here. And the fact that you do not accept their faith as better than yours is deeply offensive to some atheists, and thus subject to ridicule and criticism. It doesn't matter what you have faith in or why you have faith in it--the important thing for such individuals is that you eventually abandon your faith to more closely approximate theirs. Mind you, you will only encounter this from a minority of atheists. Most of them could care less what you believe so long as you don't come knocking on their door trying to sell that belief to them. The only time you will see this is from a person who has a such great faith in his concept-of-choice that he believes you, too, should have faith in his concept-of-choice. Meanwhile, there are those who sit and wonder whether fundamentalism is a purely religious phenomenon....:devil3: |
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1) An archetype within the human psyche, representing the principles of causality that drive our existence. 2) A representation of a human being, again nested in the human psyche, represnting where and how a person relates to the universe and the forces that govern his life. Quote:
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Soul: basically, the "bedrock" of the subconscious, the part of a human personality that is directly connected with the universe around him and the collective forces that unite all other minds in existence. Ego: basicaly, the "cieling" of the conscious, the part of a human personality that is directly concerned with external reality and the physical, mundane world around him. Quote:
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Of course, some people find it and they never learn to call it a god, other people never find it but come to believe in some such god our of fear of punishment of alienation from their peers. Quote:
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1) What is your faith?
N/A 2) What are its basic principles? N/A 3) Do you believe in God? No. 4) What is God to you? It depends on what other people mean by the word. "God" doesn't seem to me to have a very clear definition. But in most social groups, it seems to denote a non-physical "creator of the universe" who operates behind the scenes. So that's what I tend to take as the default definition unless someone indicates otherwise. 5) Why do you believe God exists or doesn’t exist? For all God's that I don't think exist, I don't think that they exist because there is no reason/evidence indicating the existence of that particular God defined in that particular way. I do believe in some definitions of God, however. For instance, if you define "God" as this post, then I believe that "God" exists, because there is evidence that this post exists. 6) What do the following words mean to you: spirit, soul, and ego? The same thing as with "God." Definition varies depending on context/who you are talking to, but there are the obvious commonly assumed definitions which I won't bother to enumerate. 7) According to you, do the aforementionned words relate to God? That seems to be what most people say when they talk about "spirits," "Gods," etc. So yes, I would assume that unless someone indicates otherwise. 8) What do you think has to be personally done in order to feel closer to God? Assuming the ordinary definition of "God," someone must hallucinate in order to feel closer to the alleged God. 9) Do you think that God may disapprove of some things we do? No, because God does not exist. 10) Why do you think it may be so? Non-existent entities do not have states of approval/disapproval. 11) Why do you think people believe in God? It seems to depend on the person, the "God" that they believe in, and what they mean by "believe." 12) Why do you think some people don’t believe in God? Most people here seem not to believe in God because there is no evidence for the ordinary God-concept. Seeming logical contradictions don't help either. 13) What evidence do you see that proves God’s existence? N/A 14) Does your conception of God include notions such as heaven and hell? In my understanding of the ordinary "God-concept," those are alleged to be different sorts of things (places), rather than objects/beings (which exist in places). 15) In this case, what is their link with God? N/A 16) What is your view on death? Other people have died before. I have not died. Being dead is the same way that it was before I was born. 17) According to you, what happens after death? There is no after death for the dead person, because there is no more person to have anything. There is life, and that lasts for all the time which you/I will experience. There is only after death for the people who exist, surviving the former (ie dead) person, who no longer exists. 18) What is your personal definition of life? The standard biological one, unless context/someone else indicates otherwise. |
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