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Chili · 12-25-2009, 05:27 PM

. . . and then, of course, once you know the way it is easy to see and write about the wrong way and that is what Matthew is all about. Now notice that the [what is known as] "the great commision" is ordered by Matthew and compare that with the commision of Luke where Jesus said (after showed his wounds or stigmata): "AS I am, so I am sending you," . . . clearly suggesting that that is possible from first hand experience and Paul showed us that it was = prior to us by nature without the need to burn bible passages daily (and just let the temple burn on its own).

aa5874 · 12-25-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by maryhelena

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Originally Posted by neilgodfrey

It is the generally accepted view that

the Old Testament literature is a stitching of J, E, D and P,
the NT epistles show marks of interpolations, from minor to major edits, both from manuscript and internal textual evidence.
There is little doubt about the canonical endings of Mark and John being later additions.
Marcion might be said to have split the church over the question of interpolations.

So we can say that the canonical gMatthew is earlier than the canonical gMark or that the canonical Gospels are all late.

Once the Gospels were heavily interpolated and then canonised they must be considered to be later than the originals.

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Originally Posted by neilgodfrey

And we so often seem to come across some strange reference from a Syriac manuscript or a Justin or Origen or Clement of Alexandria referring ostensibly to one of our gospels but saying something odd about what it is supposed to contain.

But, it may be the other way, what we think is odd may not be odd at all once it is agreed that the Church writers redacted and interpolated many writings of antiquity.

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12-25-2009, 05:27 PM	#11
Chili Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 11,885	. . . and then, of course, once you know the way it is easy to see and write about the wrong way and that is what Matthew is all about. Now notice that the [what is known as] "the great commision" is ordered by Matthew and compare that with the commision of Luke where Jesus said (after showed his wounds or stigmata): "AS I am, so I am sending you," . . . clearly suggesting that that is possible from first hand experience and Paul showed us that it was = prior to us by nature without the need to burn bible passages daily (and just let the temple burn on its own).

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