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Clivedurdle · 02-03-2009, 02:53 AM

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ORPhEOS BAKKIKOS

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?p=3584964

I started on this from a different direction - the meaning of the above.

Oxford Dictionary of Classical Myth and religion

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the quintessential mythical singer, son of Apollo and a Muse whose song has more than human power.

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Bacchanalia - usually translates as mysteries
Bacchus - see Dionysus

One plus one equals 323 or does it?

Clivedurdle · 02-03-2009, 03:27 AM

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As you know, before animal sacrifices replaced human sacrifices, as typified by the Story of Abraham and Isaac, the ancestors of both the Jewish and Gentile members of this congregation raised a common criminal to the status of king, cursed Him and physically abused Him, then put Him to death on a stauros, the earthly correspondent of the axis mundi, that is, the theoretical, rotational pole of the Heavens, which earthly sacrifice corresponded with the heavenly sacrifice they perceived on the Veil of Heaven (Katapetasma).

This sacrifice is necessary to give the Sun the strength to pass from His birth at the Winter Solstice, our Christmas, through the perils of the New Year, our Easter, when darkness is equal to light, so that all of God's creation can be redeemed from perpetual death in the underworld.

As you also know, in order to participate personally in that strengthening, our ancestors ate the flesh and drank the blood of the sacrificed hero, who was the earthly correspondent of the One like the Son of Man whom they saw (in a vision) sacrificed on the Veil of Heaven (Katapetasma).

We Christians have abandoned both human and animal sacrifices, believing, as we do, that God's sacrifice of His first-born Son on the Katapetasma redeems for all times our first-born sons and animals from corresponding sacrifices here on Earth.

The abandonment of human and animal sacrifice is but one feature of Christianity which makes Christianity an improvement upon your otherwise nearly-identical Mystery Religions of Adonis, Attis, Balder, Dionysus, Esus, Hercules, Mithras, Orpheus, Osiris, and Tammuz, all of which Mysteries merely were, as you know, restatements of the ancient Aryan Mysteries of Agni....

http://www.jesussilenced.com/appendix_i.html

Roger Pearse · 02-03-2009, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

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Question: Which of these two sermons is true

1) Christian preacher to a congregation of Americans in A.D. 2000:

Christianity is absolutely unique. Christianity is the only true religion. Christianity's message first was preached by Jesus of Nazareth. All other so-called religions, past and present, were/are mere cults of Satan. Only through Jesus Christ will anyone ever know the Father. Believe in Christ and obey me, your preacher, and you will avoid the perpetual tortures of Hell.

(2) Christian preacher to a congregation of Hellenized Jews and Gentiles in A.D. 199:

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The abandonment of human and animal sacrifice is but one feature of Christianity which makes Christianity an improvement upon your otherwise nearly-identical Mystery Religions of Adonis, Attis, Balder, Dionysus, Esus, Hercules, Mithras, Orpheus, Osiris, and Tammuz, all of which Mysteries merely were, as you know, restatements of the ancient Aryan Mysteries of Agni....

http://www.jesussilenced.com/appendix_i.html

It is unfortunate that the author of that doesn't make clear that his "Christian preacher to a congregation of Hellenized Jews and Gentiles in A.D. 199" is merely imaginary; that no ancient text actually records anything of the kind; and that he himself has no classical education of even the most elementary kind, as we can tell from the above.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

Clivedurdle · 02-03-2009, 07:14 AM

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imaginary

What an imaginary friend we have in Jesus! (And Orpheus...)

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