Febble

Well, God performs countless abortions. He did at least eight for me, possibly more.

Negasta

Europe has more than enough natural resources to feed and house many millions more and I agree with Ratzy, not because I oppose abortion or contraception, but because Europeans should have many more children so that they can prevent the Muslims from breeding them out of their own countries, for instance projections show that France will be a majority Muslim country in 25 years because the Muslims are breeding so much faster than the native French.

llamaluvr

Yeah, that abortion is an opiate for the masses foisted upon the poor by the rich as an alternative to actually sharing the wealth necessary to support children that the rich would rather be killed.

Abortion as a social experiment failed to solve any of the problems it was supposed to. Instead, today the problems are worse. Is that the fault of abortion? Maybe not, but the plight of the poor wasn't really the fault of overpopulation, either.

In the West, everywhere we look we're being saddled with higher per capita costs for caring for the elderly. Several European countries are desperate enough to pay people large sums of money to do things evolution says we should want to do naturally. There is always a concerned that the children lost to abortion would have been largely a burden it terms of welfare, but that can be fixed in relatively short order, at least compared to the situation we have today, where those children aren't here at all- we can never fix that.

Febble

It wasn't a social experiment

Yes, it did, it solves the problem of unwanted pregnancies for millions of women, and it saves them from life-threatening illegal back-street abortions.

Which ones?

Agreed, as with your point that it isn't the fault of abortion.

"Evolution says???????" Who the hell is "Evolution" and why should we believe him/her?

Is there?

Nor can we fix the the children who weren't conceived, nor those, like so many of mine, who were conceived but never made it to term for entirely natural reasons. We can't fix anything that doesn't exist. What we can fix are problems.

Boro Nut

Exactly. And let's rewind the reel 2000 years to remind ourselves what the clear and specific instructions on the subject actually were:-

If only they'd actually done what they were told to. Sadly, despite these clear and specific instructions, they singularly failed in their mission to fizzle away into extinction.
<Fast Forward 2000 years>
Boro Nut

llamaluvr

I've always found this an interesting train of thought. Why is it that, as long as there are external issues contributing to a problem, it is OK to persist in doing the things that contribute to the same problem that we can actually fix? In the past, we've had many more miscarriages and a much higher infant mortality rate, yet, in the West, we didn't nearly have the problems maintaining a balanced population as we do today. What is causing this and what should we do about it?

EthnAlln

By the Pope, yes. Indeed, any fertilized ovum is a full human being, as far as he's concerned. He wouldn't allow an abortion even to a rape victim with an ectopic, life-threatening pregnancy. To please him and his God, the victim has to risk a fatal hemorrhage in a futile attempt to bear the child of the man who committed the grossest assault possible upon her.

Jo

Would the Pope also like to offer financial assistance that will surely follow in the wake of increased kidlets?

Would he also like to take responsibility for all those who have died at the hands of Christianity?

It was also a result of child slave labour under a Christian regime that prompted human rights (especially towards children). This was a major observance by John Locke in the 19th century - that child mortality rates were highest in Europe because of the christian regime of "silence a child" - also putting them to work.

I call it cleaning house.

Johnny Skeptic

Since God created the first miscarriage/abortion, which set the stage for all subsequent miscarriages/abortions, the Pope obviously has no grounds to criticize abortion, not to mention that with parasites alone God has killed more people than all of the wars in history. Not only that, but the Pope does not have any credible evidence at all that God has ever taken a position on abortion, or even that he exists.

Bigmo

Maybe he thinks it is fear that drives it. In the early Arab history, people used to kill their daughter for fear of poverty. Do you think its the same thing?