spamandham

Although I don't totally buy it, there is an author (forgotten who) who promotes the idea that there are 2 gods in the garden, the real god, and an impostor. The real god is always referred to just as 'god', and the impostor is referred to as 'lord god'. He claims there are numerous plays on words in Hebrew that would make it obvious to someone reading in that language.

Iskander

I don’t know what “day” may have meant in the olden days, but when Jesus was alive “day” meant 24 hours.

The birth and life of Jesus changed many things for many people and the grunting of cavemen harking back to the prehistoric past cannot change that which remains alive in the hopes and achievements of those who create and modify on this earth.

Petergdi

It takes a special aptitude for boneheaded literal-mindedness not to recognise that the author of the story intended God's words to be true. So if they aren't true in the most literal-minded sense then the author must have intended something less literal-minded.

Peter.

Julio

Yes, good point.

Chili

God is Gen 1 who creates the essence of all existence (even today) and Lord God is the manifestation of this creation with a mind of his own (even today) and in Gen 3 'like god' is added to be co-creator with the God of Gen.1 (even today) and there is totally no creation in Gen 2. nor is there any creation in Gen.1 without the input of Gen.3 (even today) . . . which then is why all of creation is sentient so it can compete in a living environment = ends the evolution debate.

It therefore says ìn the beginning to show the state of mind wherein only we can be at rest instead of war in this ever changing biological environment werein we also are no longer social beingss but solitary individuals as such.

Chili

That Adam lived for 930 years only means that he could trace is own lineage back 930 years after illumination (much like Joseph in Luke).

The day can also be read as the moment because to eat of the Tree of Knowledge (TOK) is to be consciously aware which is needed to know that you will die . . . and that does not mean that you will not die if one is not consciously aware that you will die.

To be aware we need an ego or self conscious mind and thus in Gen 3 the persona is created by conjecture to serve man with the gather of food, beauty and truth that is to be retained by the woman who presides over the subconscious mind there called the Tree of Life (TOL).

Notice how God knows and God said but God never does anything while Lord God is what he is and `like god`(small g) is the achiever but not in Eden where all his goodies are retained. His in this context is masculine or human and thus the TOL is woman as the womb of God. This is how human and woman are opposites and subsequently also temproal and eternal (respectively) and thus it is in woman or in his own TOL where Adam was 930 years old. In the NT they call this the reign of God etc.

Julio

Dear Chili, with the due respect, who told you all that?!...

Chili

To recognize in the above is that the fall of man happened to Man [in the image of God] and not to Adam which is the name given to this second naure of Man = wherein only the shame complex can be conceived to exist (cf Gen2:25 and Gen 3:7) realizing that we look with our eyes but see with our mind.

So Adam is the usurper and therefore god (small g) for which later an insurrectionist is needed to undo this event and so restore Eden as heaven on earth.

Chili

Huh? that's just the beginning

Julio

Of course, it's just the beginning. Who told you all that, I ask again?