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froggy · 01-05-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jagella

1. Make your book very long. That way you’ll keep both believer and skeptic busy with its unwieldy load of content.

Try a short Chapter first like this 6 years old aritcle, good exercise for you.
I have just made this homepage today and the files Chapter 52 is still the same as it was, unchange. Let me know when you think you are ready.

http://www.geocities.com/greenbirdy/index.html

Cynical-Chick · 01-06-2005, 12:57 AM

From WinAce:

Hopeful Monsters · 01-06-2005, 04:21 AM

Some favourites (including the WinAce effort above):

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Originally Posted by Jagella

5. For those who aren't snagged by your offer of paradise, threaten them with punishment for not believing the stuff in your book. Make the supposed punishment something your god inflicts, and make it eternal for even more oomph!

7. Write your book in one or more languages—ones most of the book’s readers don’t know. That way mistakes you make in your book can be attributed to “translation errors.�?

9. Borrow myths from other religions. People just love myths, and the tried and true myths should not be overlooked! Just be careful to alter those myths to your own purposes.

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Originally Posted by Vinnie

[3] When Moral Atrocities come up (10th plague, God murdering children and so on) tell the skeptic that he is in no position to judge God. Then require that the skeptic supply you with a Proven Objective Moral Standard.

[10] General statements do not necessarily mean universal principles. You are free to pick and choose, at will, what you want to interpret as binding versus what has been "fulfilled by Christ". You are free to choose what you feel only applied to a certain culture and is simply no longer applicable. You need not supply a methodology for such a procedure.

[13] When science errors are posed, point out evolution is just a theory. Say that half a wing is no good. Point out that dinosaur and human footprints have been found together and that a young earth has now been proven by scientists.

[14] Ignore textual errors and the fact that God let his word be altered and corrupted through time. Despite not having any autographs or very early (50-100 years) copies of any of the works and no way of knowing what many passages originally looked like, point out that we have thousands of copies of later copies of the Bible.

[15] Ignore all relevant philological studies into the culture and language in question. Lacking formal expertise, simply use a lexicon casually to reinterpret anything that seems to create an incongruity in scripture. God will certainly guide you.

Some more ideas to add maybe:-

[ ] Utilise pompous, bombastic, grandiloquent language and stodgy sentence construction – if it sounds important, it must be … well … important

[ ] Write a First Book that makes some prophesies. Now, with full knowledge of this First Book, write a Second Book where those ‘prophesies’ all come true. Eh voila! Prophesies dude! Prophesies!

[ ] Invent witnesses to events in your Book. Now make these same people characters in the same Book. Eh voila! Witnesses dude! Witnesses!

[ ] Pile lots of condemnation, guilt, shame, punishment, disgrace, dishonour, humiliation fantasies into the work – people love that fetishistic shit

[ ] Don’t worry about inconsistencies and errors – later on, they will be called ‘Knowledge in the form of Propositional Statements’ by desperate believers with severe cognitive dissonance

[ ] Utilise passages which are parable, allegorical, poetical, historical, literal, metaphorical, symbolical, propositional – later on, people will make up which is which to suit their pro-God arguments. Give this process of outright lying and manifest self-deception fancy names like ‘exegesis’, ‘hermeneutics’, ‘scholarship’

[ ] Utilise lots of phoney capitalisation, such as 'He', 'Him', 'His Word', 'His Will Be Done', etc to make your book seem really important

[ ] If you are God, have your Word recorded in many languages – such as Hebrew, Ancient Greek and Aramaic. Now ensure that most of the people you create can’t speak or read these languages! They will have to use literal translations, multiple other translations, lexicons and study guides just to try and interpret what the hell you were trying to say and get it wrong too. Eh voila! Lot’s of unhelpful ‘exegesis’, ‘hermeneutics’, ‘scholarship’, ‘interpretation’ to cloud up the purity of your ‘Word’.

[ ] If you are God, ensure your followers never ask why they weren't simply created to write or speak the language or your 'Prophet' or the languages of the 'Scripture' containing your 'Word'. Maybe you lost concentration or didn't have the power to get that simple task right

[ ] Save lots of time and trouble and discussion board band-width by honestly naming your work: The Book of Lies

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Agnostic Theist · 01-06-2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by skepticdude

That's just for Muslim extremists.

But then, that would create a contradiction, and we can't have that

My bad :Cheeky:

What do you mean?

This is how envisage it

'Hey, baby, get over here and put out!'

'Beg pardon, I've been with the most divine beings ever. I've not been shagged since the start of time, and I'm certainly not gonna start with you!'

Alternatively,

'Let's do it!'

'Yeah!

'So...um, you got experience?'

'No, no education either. You?#

'Same'

'WHat do we do?'

'Um...I don't know.'

'Fuck, me neither'

'How do we fuck though?'

'Do you fancy a curry instead?'

'Alright'

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