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Old 12-11-2005, 08:29 AM   #21
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Thanks for the information! So it was just the newspaper article or some other popularization of Yuval that swapped Gamaliel II to I? Also there is just one thing that still kind of bugs me:

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IIUC Yuval and his critics are in agreement that the intended Gamaliel is Gamaliel II, Gamaliel I who appears to have died before the destruction of Jerusalem could not have delivered a judgment in c 73 AD.
Where does this year come from?
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Thanks for the information! So it was just the newspaper article or some other popularization of Yuval that swapped Gamaliel II to I? Also there is just one thing that still kind of bugs me:
I haven't read Yuval so I can't be absolutely certain but 73 CE does seem far too late for Gamaliel I (who was the grandfather of Gamaliel II who died in c 110 CE. )

I'm not even clear that the newspaper article does unambiguously claim that the story is about Gamaliel I.
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Where does this year come from?
I don't know but 73 CE is about the time when the Jewish war is finally over and the Jews can more or less get back to running their own affairs under loose Roman supervision. If the story was authentic from the early years of Gamaliel II's career (before he becomes a leader at Jabneh) then 73 would be a plausible date.

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