Clivedurdle

Is there any relationship between Magdlyn and Magdalene?

Chili

Hello Clivedurdle, here is my opinion on that and I should add here that I see the birth of Jesus as the rebirth of Joseph who can be reborn from both Mary the Virgin mother of Jesus and from Mary Magdalene. These two Mary's were bosum buddies (just as Jesus and JBab were) with Mary theotokos being from the Tree of Life (subconscious and therefore "flesh of my flesh") and Mary Magdalene from the conscious mind (outside of Eden = Galilea, see also "the Creation of Adam [fall of man?]" by Michelangelo on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel). Note that these 4 identitites (there's actually 6 with the Virgin and the infant Jesus-son-of-man) are personified forces in the mind of one man used to describe the metaphysics of metamorphosis. I'll add here that religion tries to bring this renewal about which is native to us by nature but increasingly less frequent in advanced civilizations without indulgences .

It is most important that Mary was from Nazareth because Mary theotokos is the womb of Joseph and therefore "bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh" that was "taken out of her man(= virgin)." Mary Magdalene was not taken from her man but was the woman that Adam (here by the name of Joseph) took to be his wife and together they went about their way as they pleased but outside of Eden (Nazareth) and therefore in Galilea (in this context).

It must be pointed out here that the difference between Seneca and the Gospels is that Seneca ends in a tragedy while the Gosples end in a comedy. Both will have a similar rising action that is followed by a crisis moment which is the birth of Jesus with the only noticeable difference at this time that Seneca must have Magdalene as the mother of Jesus while the Gospels must have Mary theotokos (the other less prominent Mary) as the mother of Jesus.

Both were at the foot of the cross and Magdalene should always be there because she was not flesh of flesh to ever become the continuity of man but she was just a figment of the imagination that had just been crucified. I mean it is bad enough that Magdalene was a reflection of the image that makes the man (she is to be admired for that) but if that image [the ego] just got annihilated she must have felt both used and abused.

Note, the 4 and 6 identities is where JBab becomes the fulness of Jesus and Elizabeth the fulness of Mary and therefore the Virgin Mary becomes Mary of Clopas and thus Magdalene never becomes the mother of Jesus in the Gosples.

I think "A Strange Manuscript found in a Copper Cilinder" by James Mille makes this clear with Layelah and Almah.

Chili

or there can be no "good news." The Gospel is good news and Senecan tragedy is bad news with the good news being heaven on earth and the bad news hell on earth. The difference between heaven and hell is whether or not we complete the race with the words "it is finished" (or "old father old artificer, stand me now and ever in good stead" as in the last line of Joyces "Portrait" = divine comedy, instead of "damned be him who first cries 'hold enough'" as found in MacBeth = Senecan tragedy). The rest (resurrection, ascention, assumption and finally the coronation of Mary as queen of heaven and earth) follows and is "as easy as eating and drinking" according to William Golding.

How do we know? The annunciation is the first hint that Easter will follow to which the magi bear witness for they must bring our baptism candle (star of Bethlehem) to the cradle. And behold my friends, there better be a white candle in our advent wreath or Lucifer will have to light a match every time we thirst for inspiration.

Magus55

No Mary isn't. Mary was the mortal mother of Jesus. Jesus didn't even exalt Mary, yet the Catholic church puts her higher than Jesus. Also, its funny how God condemns the Israelites for worshipping a Queen of Heaven, and the Catholic church hasn't learned a thing. Mary is not the Queen of Heaven, she was not assumed to Heaven, she was not a perpetual virgin, she was not born without sin, she is not a mediator, she cannot save souls, and she is not to be prayed to. I imagine Mary would be devastated at the blasphemy the Catholic church has brought to God in her name.

Evoken

Yes she is divine, she is the Goddess like Jesus is God and both where begotten by the Inefalibe Father and all three form The Trinity. We all become The Christ by following the examble of The Son and allowing Sophia/Mary to be our guide.

Chili

Hold it Magus, I wasn't finished and for your information, the Infallible Church is in charge of God for She, the Universal Church, is the only God bearer of our time which is the reason why all roads lead to Rome (there is no redemption outside the Church).

. . . as did the children of Israel, and Lady Macbeth and all those saved sinner who want to be "king hereafter" but can't get their faculties right in this life and therefore must consume scriptures to feed Lucifer -- wherefore there is no redemption outside the Church.

Born Free

Mary is the epitome of all that is womanity right chilli???


Nice to see you back

Chili

Hi alli, how are you, read about you lately and hope things are well with you.

You got alli and it is your affinity with your own womanity that tells you that.

I like your use of the word "womanity" which can now be juxtaposed with "humanity" as opposite "conditions of being" that belong to the being with God being the refined human condition (sic) and Mary the refined woman condition . . . for she was taken from man who was created in the image of God to be procreated each generation anew after the 'upgraded' image of God wherefore Jesus said that we would do greater things and I can say that the Catholic church is in charge of God since She is the only God-bearing institution in our civilization (respectfully along with Judaism).

The POE does not enter into this equasion for evil does not begin until the 3rd cause while creation and procreation are the first and second cause and are also exhausted by the first and second cause. So don't even think that the Church is responsible for evil except by being the great antagonist of our mythology (can Judaism relate to that?).

Magus55

I wasn't aware you were Catholic..

If Mary is divine, why does the Bible make not a single mention of it, and even has Jesus going against the crowd that called her blessed?

Magus55

More blasphemy. The church isn't infallible, God is in charge, not the church, and I'm well aware Catholics say there is no salvation outside the church, which again goes against God's Word. I have a very strong feeling the Antichrist is gonna set up headquarters in Rome.



The Bible disagrees with you about there being no redemption outside the Church. The RCC is not the one true church. The body of believers is.