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Old 08-24-2012, 10:48 AM   #51
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I am specifically referring to a bible-like life story of the Christ similar to the 4 gospels. They were clearly produced as a set of similar stories intended to stand alongside the Old Testament as part of the official "Bible".

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This is very, verey hard to believe. If everything was freelance or open season, then there would be much more evidence of something like a full story called the Gospel according to Charles or the Gospel According to William. ....
Are you familiar with the variety of gospels available in the second and third centuries, not mention the variety of Acts?

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I am specifically referring to a bible-like life story of the Christ similar to the 4 gospels. They were clearly produced as a set of similar stories intended to stand alongside the Old Testament as part of the official "Bible".

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Are you familiar with the variety of gospels available in the second and third centuries, not mention the variety of Acts?

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they clearly were not.


we had different communities copying Gmark and added to it, because their community had different oral tradition and importance to what they valued



they were written with a OT foundation by people that worshipped the OT and wanted to add their theology as additions to the OT they were following to certain extents, but not completely




the bible evolved over a thousand years, none of it was written to match one book from the next except when they copied, YET THEY ALL ARE SIMULAR even with thousands of years in between books
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Love ya brother but your trying to make a square wheel, out of a Ferrari rim
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There is no documentary or other evidence whatsoever of the existence of any "communities" that followed only one or another of the canonical gospels. Indeed, even AA's pal Justin never distinguishes among gospels followed since he lumps everything together as "Memoirs of the Apostles." Personally, I think the claims of some ancient propagandists about various sects is legend, myth, heresay and outright invention.

I suppose if Eusebius had written about the Bubblegumists who believed only in the Gospel according to Bazooka there would be some who would quote him widely.

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I am specifically referring to a bible-like life story of the Christ similar to the 4 gospels. They were clearly produced as a set of similar stories intended to stand alongside the Old Testament as part of the official "Bible".

they clearly were not.


we had different communities copying Gmark and added to it, because their community had different oral tradition and importance to what they valued



they were written with a OT foundation by people that worshipped the OT and wanted to add their theology as additions to the OT they were following to certain extents, but not completely




the bible evolved over a thousand years, none of it was written to match one book from the next except when they copied, YET THEY ALL ARE SIMULAR even with thousands of years in between books
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There is no documentary or other evidence whatsoever of the existence of any "communities" that followed only one or another of the canonical gospels.

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you have been told this before, we now have to repeat known facts to you. Gjohn states it was written by a Johaninne community, and all scholrships back that information.

The gospels thenselves are the evidence

Gmark the first and served as a foundation to the others written to a roman audience FACT!

Gluke added other sources to Gmark FACT! also written to a roman audience

Gmatthew written to community that adhered to more judaism then the others but still used the roman foundation of Gmark. FACT!



all different places and semi different cultures based on geographic location.
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FACT or HYPOTHESIS, Outhouse??
It's a BIG difference.

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There is no documentary or other evidence whatsoever of the existence of any "communities" that followed only one or another of the canonical gospels.

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you have been told this before, we now have to repeat known facts to you. Gjohn states it was written by a Johaninne community, and all scholrships back that information.

The gospels thenselves are the evidence

Gmark the first and served as a foundation to the others written to a roman audience FACT!

Gluke added other sources to Gmark FACT! also written to a roman audience

Gmatthew written to community that adhered to more judaism then the others but still used the roman foundation of Gmark. FACT!



all different places and semi different cultures based on geographic location.
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Those are facts
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How can be demonstrable empirical facts unless you can show they are?

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How can be demonstrable empirical facts unless you can show they are?

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Those are facts

not only is the scripture were left with obviously what I stated

You also have no case at all for anything other then what I stated as fact.


thats why they call it a fact.



if you cannot view the basic facts as a foundation to build your knowledge from, do you think you can turn that square wheel into something a Ferrari would start running on their cars?
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Not facts, inferences.

"Scholars" infer the existence of communities from the gospels, because the gospels appear to be liturgical documents that must have been preserved because someone used them.
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