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Old 07-08-2007, 03:53 PM   #41
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Maybe as you're getting older you're slipping as you're aging, but I'm learning and growing.
Ah, youth! I'm still learning too, kid. But just you wait.....
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Maybe as you're getting older you're slipping as you're aging, but I'm learning and growing.
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I'm calm. For sure chilled by the sense of my own mortality.

But, me growing more intelligent as I grow older looks like a fact to me because every few years I look back and am amazed at how dumb I was on lots and lots of stuff. Learning is a process, a process that has actual physical effects.
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But, me growing more intelligent as I grow older looks like a fact to me because every few years I look back and am amazed at how dumb I was on lots and lots of stuff. Learning is a process, a process that has actual physical effects.
And for a sperm whale in the upper atmosphere, life is the process of going faster and faster, with no sign of ever slowing down. Call me when you've hit terminal velocity, or that big solid-looking thing comes into view. We'll compare notes.
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Well sure we had brains before we were "intelligent". We weren't empty headed monkeys running around. "Use" developed the brain though, not a random mutation of the genes... just like "use" develops the muscles.
You've still got it backwards. Being intelligent doesn't cause big brains. It's the other way around.

And this still has nothing to do with evidence for super-long lifespans for ancient humans. It's verging on being off-topic.
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I said TREND, which generally means a continuum to most people, elijah, not a fucking moment in it. When you claim to be smarter than you were as a child 4 years ago (I'm actually giving you undeserved credit there) and you don't look at what I actually said...then you're actually arguing against your own claims in multiple ways. In old age, people trend to losing cognitive ability /agility. Period. When you can refute that with statistically applicable data, you let me know. Until then, you're not just wrong, you're laughably wrong.
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Initially, I was trying not to be too harsh, Elijah...but at this point, my advice to you is to drop the bong and step away from it. There are many people for whom drug use merely leads to muddled, fractured thinking.

Given your performance here today, you may want to consider that .
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Initially, I was trying not to be too harsh, Elijah...but at this point, my advice to you is to drop the bong and step away from it. There are many people for whom drug use merely leads to muddled, fractured thinking.

Given your performance here today, you may want to consider that .
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Heh, I bet that's the look your mom gives you when you emerge from your room/basement to grab a bag of Doritos.
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I said TREND, which generally means a continuum to most people, elijah, not a fucking moment in it. When you claim to be smarter than you were as a child 4 years ago (I'm actually giving you undeserved credit there) and you don't look at what I actually said...then you're actually arguing against your own claims in multiple ways. In old age, people trend to losing cognitive ability /agility. Period. When you can refute that with statistically applicable data, you let me know. Until then, you're not just wrong, you're laughably wrong.
http://www.futurepundit.com/archives...ain_aging.html

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Few older people die with brains untouched by a pathological process, however, an individual’s likelihood of having clinical signs of dementia increases with the number of different disease processes present in the brain
The losing of cognitive abilities in old age is related to disorders of the brain such as dementia and not the aging itself.

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This debate revolves around the average elderly individual. Not as much research has been aimed specifically at this group. They have been used as control groups in comparison to Alzheimer’s patients, but not until the last 20 years or so has research been done on the average elderly individual
Science doesn't experiment on healthy people that often therefore the data is based on diseased/unhealthy people.

http://www.memory-key.com/Seniors/se...ch_decline.htm

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Such age deficits at least partly due to poorer monitoring of their learning.
If you don't continue learning as you age you loose the ability or forget how to learn and have to be shown again.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...766f22#m4.cor*

You can buy that paper if you want. In there it says...

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All groups show similar beneficial effects indicating that aging does not impede the learning process .... They still maintain cognitive abilities and residual resources
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Initially, I was trying not to be too harsh, Elijah...but at this point, my advice to you is to drop the bong and step away from it. There are many people for whom drug use merely leads to muddled, fractured thinking.

Given your performance here today, you may want to consider that .
Look mate, I know it's a pain in the ass having old farts preaching to ya but we do know some stuff. Been alive longer. Learnt more. Gotta be smarter. Your theory, right?

So, you like a bit of weed? I personally have done weed, speed, E's, coke, opium, mushrooms and acid. In my opinion when you reach the point where any of those substances become one of your main interests then you have a problem.
Try getting some new interests. Just for a month, just for the hell of it.
If nothing else you'll give your lungs a break and enjoy the hit more when you finally have one.
 
 

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