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Biff the unclean · 12-25-2003, 06:40 PM

I have no idea which strain of missionary it was that I witnessed giving aid in Rwanda, last year. But I did notice that every drop of it had a very large string attached.
Call me a Grinch all you want, but why don't you go home and leave these people alone? Show a little respect for them.

12-25-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Gurdur
You mean like say how Stalin deliberately imposed a policy of harsh repressive atheism across Soviet Asia and destroyed many native cultures there ? Or imported trustworthy Russian colonists into the native lands in Soviet Asia ?
Or say how the Red Chinese deliberately imposed a policy of harsh atheism upon Tibet, and destroyed many monasterys as well as forbidding the Tibetans free exercise of their religion, as well as importing trustworthy Chinese colonists into Tibetan land ?
Atheists have.

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Atheists are harmless (and so are even Satanists) because they do not tamper (read fornicate) with the souls of their own children nor do they act as if they were wolves in sheeps clothing. To preach the false Gospel and lead others into eternal damnation (saved sinner complex) is just evil and should not be allowed anyplace on earth.

12-25-2003, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Gurdur
Look on the bright side.

You and Biff the unclean seem to have found a point of mutual fellowship and agreement between you.
Whether your marriage be made in heaven or hell, it's still a marriage, and deserves a cheer for such traditional values !

It's common sense man and I have never been there. I just see what happened here in Western Canada and am glad to have the courage to speak my own mind. Yes, I have good eyes.

Luiseach · 12-25-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by Amos
Atheists are harmless (and so are even Satanists) because they do not tamper (......) with the souls of their own children nor do they act as if they were wolves in sheeps clothing. To preach the false Gospel and lead others into eternal damnation (saved sinner complex) is just evil and should not be allowed anyplace on earth.

Did you have a nice Christmas, Amos?

Biff the unclean · 12-25-2003, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by Gurdur

In any case : -----> GRD Moderators

This thread started off as quite an interesting thread, rare enough for GRD; should Biff the Unclean's off-topic rantings be allowed to derail it destructively ?

Excuse me. I know you have problems dealing with anyone who thinks differently than you do. Prehaps you would be happier just talking to yourself. But if I am to be the subject of the conversation trying to exclude me from it seem a rather odd thing to do.
Tell ya what, why don't you just put me on your ignore list then you wouldn't have to get so upset over my drivel?

12-25-2003, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Luiseach
Did you have a nice Christmas, Amos?

Well thank you Luise. I even went to Church and Jn.1 was the Gospel reading today. It is my favorite and fits this topic bang-on (Pouye would never understand). We actually have Christmas all week with the grandchildren coming home.

How about you?

Edited to add a smily because that is how it is.

Luiseach · 12-25-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Amos
Well thank you Luise. I even went to Church and Jn.1 was the Gospel reading today. It is my favorite and fits this topic bang-on (......). We actually have Christmas all week with the grandchildren coming home.

You're welcome, Amos...but I would maintain that not all forms of atheism are as 'harmless' as you have suggested. As Gurdur has pointed out above, there have been political regimes which have imposed atheism in harsh and harmful ways, yes?

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How about you?

I had a very nice Christmas, thank you.

12-25-2003, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by Luiseach
You're welcome, Amos...but I would maintain that not all forms of atheism are as 'harmless' as you have suggested. As Gurdur has pointed out above, there have been political regimes which have imposed atheism in harsh and harmful ways, yes?

I had a very nice Christmas, thank you.

Yes, no doubt but atheism is not exactly the same as legislative communism. I think that Gurder knows too much for his own good but don't you tell him that.

Russia will bloom again if they keep the fundies out. Not to worry. The Orthodox Church is very beautiful and the same is true for Tibet (also one of my favorites for as little as I know about them). I love 'm both.

Luiseach · 12-25-2003, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Amos
Yes, no doubt but atheism is not exactly the same as legislative communism.

Yes, but Gurdur's point about the harsh/harmful imposition of atheism by some political regimes demonstrates that some atheists are therefore not as 'harmless' as you have suggested.

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I think that Gurder knows too much for his own good but don't you tell him that.

I think that Gurdur knows a lot about a lot...and this knowledge is, in turn, an invaluable educational resource for discussions such as these.

Gurdur · 12-25-2003, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by Biff the unclean

.... I know you have problems dealing with anyone who thinks differently than you do.

You are projecting.

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But if I am to be the subject of the conversation trying to exclude me from it seem a rather odd thing to do.

I'm not trying to exclude you from anything. I merely want to see the interesting substantive part of this thread continued, and we can have you and Amos sounding off in a different thread,

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Tell ya what,

Tell ya what, why don't you ever get around to replying to points that I make ?
And I'll repeat the salient points just for you.

Atheism is no use unless it's accompanied by tolerance and humanism. Pretending all theists or all missionaries are evil is simply against the facts, and dogmatic to boot.
Wishing people would get shot is simply juvenile.

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12-25-2003, 06:40 PM	#11
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	I have no idea which strain of missionary it was that I witnessed giving aid in Rwanda, last year. But I did notice that every drop of it had a very large string attached. Call me a Grinch all you want, but why don't you go home and leave these people alone? Show a little respect for them.

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