aa5874

A. People will always think that Jesus' death and resurrection are fictitious because the authors of the story wrote that Jesus was raised long before he should have. They wrote earlier that Jesus was supposed to be dead for three days and three nights, yet, less than 48 hrs afterwards, the tomb was empty.

Matthew 12.40 Based on the way the story is written, Jesus may have faked his death, walked out of the tomb, went into hiding and then appeared to the disciples sometime later. Remember Jesus was portrayed as some kind of "magician", and "magicians" know how to "disappear and re-appear".

The women and disciples were expecting to see the dead body of Jesus early on the Sunday morning, to have it anointed , and 24 hours was still left on the clock, why did the authors claim Jesus left the tomb so early? I think he may have left just before the soldiers came to guard the tomb, or while they slept, if he lived at all.

B. It appears to be a fairytale, Jesus and Paul are just the main actors of the script. Other authors used different actors to achieve similar scenes. Marcion, Basilides, Valentinus and Simon, the Holy God all had followers called Christians who may have been persecuted before those Christians who were "converted" by the actor called "Paul".

mens_sana

Perhaps because they were written to be read aloud.

angelo

I may have already stated on this forum these facts. If so I apologise. But most crucified victims were left on their crosses, or whatever, for the roaming dogs and other wildlife to feast on. There was little left to bury in some tomb. perhaps a few left over bones that the animals may have left behind. Certainly no body. My apologies to the squeamish, but that was the way things were done in those days.
:huh:

angelo

Not perhaps. That is the way they were written. For the different so-called churches that sprouted up in the Roman Empire. Each gospel is aimed at the various groups of already existing christians.

mountainman

They were written in Greek, which assumes
a Greek speaking audience, bu we have no
external reports from the greeks that the
canon was actually performed at any ancient
venue.

Everone knows that the Greek used in the
new testament was inferior to many works,
and that the Greeks would have walked out
of the performance.


On the other hand, the non-canonical acts
for example, such as the Nag Hammadi text
"The Acts of Peter and the 11/12/13 Apostles"
was designed to also be performed. It is dated
to the mid-fourth century.

Best wishes,


Pete Brown

angelo

''I do not believe that a person named Jesus Christ ever existed. But as the people are inclined to superstition, it is proper not to oppose them.''

Napoleon Bonaparte.

Lord Emsworth

In the case of fossils we do however know quite well what is fossil and what not.

aa5874

Is there a fossil of Jesus Christ of Nazareth?

angelo

Sure he would be recognized. He'd be the one hanging from a tree, or cross.
If you landed a bit early, he'd be the one that's pissed. It is said he used to drink with drunkards. :devil3:

angelo

No one will ever convince me that the story of Jesus is not a collection of ancient myths
about some god-men who were a dime a dozen in those days. Dating right back to the Sumerian civilization. I believe that the document called Q is just that, a collection of sayings by various people throughout ancient times, and probably not attributed to one man, but by many preachers and philosophers.