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Old 10-04-2007, 11:15 PM   #31
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Besides, I keep thinking that the essay that compares Canaanites to cockroaches must be the product of a disturbed mind.
Would that be the cockroaches that , like the termites, were intelligently designed by an all-knowing god?
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Surely one needs to step back and take a wider perspective, and accept the Bible's premises before making judgments. If one is to close one's mind to the possibility that the Bible deity is the creator of everything and has a higher moral standard than we tend to have, one may come to different conclusions compared to those one would get if treating the deity as on the same level as oneself. We should not presume that we have a right to life.
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DO we have a right to be told the truth by this alleged god?
That's an absurd question, because the questioner can decide what is truth. The Bible deity gives a coherent account of man's situation, and how he can deal with it without disaster, though with loss of autonomy. One can of course reject the whole thing as phooey, or accept it as truth.
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:43 AM   #33
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That's an absurd question, because the questioner can decide what is truth. The Bible deity gives a coherent account of man's situation, and how he can deal with it without disaster, though with loss of autonomy. One can of course reject the whole thing as phooey, or accept it as truth.
I think that means that God doesn't have to tell the truth to people he is going to have killed.
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That's an absurd question, because the questioner can decide what is truth. The Bible deity gives a coherent account of man's situation, and how he can deal with it without disaster, though with loss of autonomy. One can of course reject the whole thing as phooey, or accept it as truth.
I think that means that God doesn't have to tell the truth to people he is going to have killed.
True.
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We should not presume that we have a right to life. Surely what the deity gives, the deity can take away. If we abuse the right to life, and we do, why should we have life and breath?
So if I bring my daughter into the world, I now have a right to her life? I mean, if this ungrateful child doesn't appreciate the gift of life that only came about because of my intervention, I should kill her right?
Don't kill her. She might reform as well as both of you getting a better life under different conditions. Get rid of her at a profit! You'll find instructions on what applies to selling her as a slave in Ex. 21:7-11.
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So if I bring my daughter into the world, I now have a right to her life? I mean, if this ungrateful child doesn't appreciate the gift of life that only came about because of my intervention, I should kill her right?
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Don't kill her. She might reform as well as both of you getting a better life under different conditions. Get rid of her at a profit!
Dowry was and remains fair exchange.
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Dowry was and remains fair exchange.
Aren't offensive jokes supposed to redeem themselves by being funny or witty? Or was this not a joke?
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And the Argument from Morality is supposed to be an argument for the existence of God?

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We should not presume that we have a right to life. Surely what the deity gives, the deity can take away. If we abuse the right to life, and we do, why should we have life and breath?
It is immoral to bring a concious being into existence and then snuff it out for the heck of it. The trouble with god's notion of what constitutes abuse is that it seems radically out of line with most moral or ethical theories.
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This thread continues to focus on Morality, so it will be moved to MF&P.
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