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Old 09-15-2004, 03:03 PM   #21
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I don't believe that "Islam" is the only "true" religion. I believe all Religions have a certain degree of "truth value" and that all religions that preceded Islam were divinely authentic during its conception but 'evolved" downward due to human innovation and contamination. I believe the "Islam" mentioned in the Holy Qur'an is the best and most comprehensive expression of G-d's command. However, this does not falsify the earlier truths, in the manner that you implied.
Then why is Buddhism (which is non-theistic) all about peace and non-violence, while Islam commands death penalties and war?
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How is he supposed to be like the anti-Mohammed?

Also, I find the Cloak of Kandahar as convincing as the Shroud of Turin and the Tooth of Kandy.

That tooth, allegedly from the Buddha, resides in the Temple of the Tooth in Kandy, Sri Lanka.
"Mullah Umar" is believed underground by many Muslims and some organizations as being the manifestation of "Dajjal" or the Prophecised Anti-Christ figure of Khurasan. However, this topic is beyond the scope and mindset of GRD.
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River: You missed Space Chef's Questions

Didn't Muslims try that in India?

What about those of us who don't believe in any gods?

Will I still be able to view gay pornography and have sexual relations with other men in your utopia?
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Never tried, but I don't think beard fits me well. :down:
However when I see how incoherant, wannabe peaceful and tolerant is Islam in France, I am not scared yet. I think : "real" Islam is in danger face to Western and globalization, that's why Bin Laden and his like strike back in a "ragnarøk" way.

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River: You missed Space Chef's Questions

Didn't Muslims try that in India?

What about those of us who don't believe in any gods?

Will I still be able to view gay pornography and have sexual relations with other men in your utopia?
1) Yes, and they were successful in terms of Sufic Syncretism

2)The overwhelming majority of Muslim scientists and intellectuals (even those from NASA and other high profile...) are NOT into atheism. The concept of not believing in gods is merely the byproduct of western culture and progress. When Islamic Utopia under the Caliph Isa Masih ( Jesus Christ) begins....everyone will believe in G-d and the Laws of Nature under G-d (essentially Science).

3) One's sex life is private affair. This is even the case for heterosexual individuals.
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Thats ridiculous. Atheism is in no way a western phenomenon

And what about people who refuse to believe in a God?
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When Islamic Utopia under the Caliph Isa Masih ( Jesus Christ) begins....
And under what basis do yo make such statement?

There is no such thing nor is there going to be any "Islamic Utopia" under Christ.
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Thats ridiculous. Atheism is in no way a western phenomenon

And what about people who refuse to believe in a God?
Atheism is not exclusively a western phenomenom, although it is indeed a cultural phenomena.

Well even when Islam was the predominant civilisation on Earth, there were always a few Muslims here or there that did not genuinely believe.....but no one knew, except G-d Almighty.
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And under what basis do yo make such statement?

There is no such thing nor is there going to be any "Islamic Utopia" under Christ.


Jesus Christ (pbuh) is expected to usher the " Messianic Era" where he will destroy the symbol of the Cross, end all wars, Defeat the One-Eyed tyrant from Khurasan and defend the Earth from the Tribes of Gog and Magog. Only Islam will prevail under his Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. This is supported by both the Holy Qur'an and the Ahadees.

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Jesus Christ (pbuh) is expected to usher the " Messianic Era" where he will destroy the symbol of the Cross, end all wars, Defeat the One-Eyed tyrant from Khurasan and defend the Earth from the Tribes of Gog and Magog. Only Islam will prevail under his Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. This is supported by both the Holy Qur'an and the Ahadees.

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Ah..to break the Cross eh?i.e. destroy Christianity or is it Western Culture too? Sorry but that won't happen Islam is just a form of Arianism in disguise. Christ(who is God) belongs to The Bible and you can't just come and "hijack" it and claim something completely different than what it says.

If islam says that The Bible is the word of allah and that man cannot change the word of allah then by definition islam is false because it contradicts The Bible.
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