Salieri

Atheists claim that religion has caused most of the wars in the world. And even though wars are caused by hatred, there is some truth to this. No one has had the impact on the world that Jesus Christ has. That's pretty good for an imaginary being! Jesus said that the world will hate him because he testifies that what it does is evil. And that's it in a nutshell. That's why people either love him or hate him! He said he would bring a sword and that's exactly what he did! The human being cannot stand to hear that he is not wonderful, good, loving, intelligent, etc. He would rather believe the illusion that his sin is constructive so he can keep doing it. Many people would rather die than to admit they sin and many would also kill anyone who says they do sin. That's why jesus was killed. that is also why anyone who believes in Jesus will also be persecuted. it's called conviction. If Jesus were not telling the truth, then why didn't the world dismiss him as a lunatic? Everyday, people say they are god and everyday, those people are dismissed as crazy. Few people, if any, argue with them. The very fact that people argue against Christ, ALONE, shows that he has power! Most people dismiss the Ku Klux Klan as off the wall because most peple know they're off the wall. But ALL atheists argue against Christ! Again, the reaction of atheists is the best evidence that jesus is telling the truth.

mirage

Right.

So Muhammed was telling the truth too was he? Rev Jim Jones? Atheist reaction is obviously the best guide.

If Christ comes down off his cloud and starts lecturing about swords and sin, I promise to give him a fair hearing. Until then, I'm not interested thank you.

Good day!

Prof

Funny, I don't love him or hate him. He's just a guy in a story. Most of my friends appear indifferent about him.

Oh well...

Prof.

Alf

Prof, as usual Sallieri hasn't got a clue.

It is those who BELIEVE in Jesus who has started wars etc.

Bible Jesus himself was most likely an imaginary person - if there was one or more wise men who are the source of "Jesus Christ" we know little or nothing about them.

The believers on the other hand - the christians - are very real and has caused a lot of trouble throughout history. Sallieri, too, is very real and is causing headache to everyone who get headache when they see severe cases of irrational thinking. However, none of that is evidence that Jesus Christ was real and that is where Sallieri fail to "get it".

Alf

braces_for_impact

Are you still here?

Hazel-rah

So Jesus said he came to cause hatred and wars; and he did cause hatred and wars ... and that's a good thing? Somebody remind me not to be a Christian; this Jesus guy sounds pretty harsh.

Hopeful Monsters

Seems 'Jesus' exists in 21st century -

- solely as a label, or focus, for various forms of mania and obsessive-compulsive disorder.

Weltall

Once again Salieri fails to present any evidence and gives us nothing but assertions. Given that this doesn't even make a pretense at proving the EoG, I'm going to use my amazing psychic powers to predict a move ~E~ in the near future.

post tenebras lux

Hi Salieri,

would you be so kind as to clarify why Jesus was killed?

What would have happened if he hadn't been killed?

Couldn't he have stopped himself from being killed (i.e. Jesus wanted to be killed)?

Why do Christians dislike/hate/dispise Judas? Seems to me that without Judas you'd have no redemption and no Christians.

Luxie :wave:

Alf

Thus speaketh a true prophet!

When the prediction comes true, is this evidence that Weltall is a true prophet and his God (none) exist?

All bow to the non-existant true God and his true prophet Weltall! :notworthy

or not

Alf