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Rational BAC · 09-17-2003, 07:35 PM

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Rational BAC · 09-17-2003, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by Calzaer
RBAC, in other words: "Because I said so"

Par for the course.

[Edit: RBac, MY gut feeling tells me that the Goddess is real and Wicca is the path to enlightenment. Surely you don't think that our respective gut feelings could be compatible and non-contradictory!]

If deep down inside you you think Wicca is the answer----then I say ---go for it.

To think own self be true.

AJ113 · 09-18-2003, 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by Ojuice5001
Here's what I think of your idea. That situation is not the normal state of things. It is a doctrine that has been preached since the first moralists, but didn't become true until the eighteenth century. The eighteenth century was a time of intense spiritual disruption, especially among non-Catholic Europeans and North Americans.

Now, it's my experience that at one point in life your thinking is right, and your reason tells you to do the right thing while your instinct tells you to do something else. But it is the intent of the gods to supersede this, and make your instincts to be in favor of doing the right thing--to bring your instincts to greater conformity to their goals, in fact.

Now, the gods sometimes succeed in doing this to a person, and they have done it to me. My morality now comes not from my superego, but from my id. When you've reached that point, your intellectual thoughts lag behind your instincts, because your intellectual thoughts tend to be based on the natural and mathematical realities you deal with, while your instincts come from a divine source.

To sum up, it depends on who you are, and your assessment is better in terms of someone who has grown up in the industrial world with a low or zero amount of spirituality.

OJ, I don't doubt your sincerity but every time you make outlandish ubstantiated statements such as this you lose just a little bit more credibility in my eyes, and I suspect in others' too.

AJ113 · 09-18-2003, 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by Rational BAC
I'm not saying that I follow my "gut feelings" in everything I do. Most of the time I follow my head and not my heart. I am pretty left brained.

But in the case of my core beliefs-------Christ did exist, He was God come down to Earth, He was executed and resurrected-----I choose to follow my "gut feelings" which seem to come from deep within me. (And some personal experiences have also reinforced this notion------I choose not to describe them)

I accept the possibility that I could be completely in error in this------and that after I die I will be non-existant. (not that bad a deal anyway)

As I assume an honest atheist should accept the possibility (no matter how remote) that there is an afterlife and a Supreme Being of some kind.

I see. So you make a conscious decision to follow your gut feeling in the case of christianity - despite your own admission that your head is telling you that your faith is irrational - and then you ignore your gut feeling on other issues and listen to your head?

So how do you decide which gut feeling to follow, and which to dismiss?

Let me guess.......gut feeling about the gut feeling?

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