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aa5874 · 02-09-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ApostateAbe

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Originally Posted by Steven Carr

There has always been disagreement about who Jesus was.

2 Corinthians 11
For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

Even in Paul's time, Christians had different historical Jesus's.

If it could not be settled then who the historical Jesus had been, how can it be settled now?

The times are not really comparable, because it wasn't so much about historical accuracy as it was about gaining the greatest number of Christian followers. But, yeah, the issue is not going to be settled any time as long as there are people willing to sacrifice the greatest likelihood in favor of personal wishful thinking.

But you have already admitted that you are just guessing since you claim almost everything in Biblical scholarship is uncertain.

But, your position is not the benchmark for anyone else. What you have not settled is irrelevant to what others have already settled.

It has been settled or agreed since 1800 years ago that Jesus truly DIVINE.

Now this is not wishful thinking. It is in black and white.

These are some who propagated the DIVINITY of Jesus in antiquity.

1. Ignatius
2. Clement of Rome
3. Clement of Alexandria
4. Polycarp
5. Papias
6. Justin Martyr
7. Irenaeus
8. Tertullian
9. Origen
10. Eusebius
11. Jerome
12. Chrysostom
13. Marcion
14. Valentinus
15. Basilides
16. Marcus

It must be that it is the greatest likelyhood that Jesus was considered DIVINE in antiquity.

Civil1z@tion · 02-09-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by aa5874

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Originally Posted by ApostateAbe

The times are not really comparable, because it wasn't so much about historical accuracy as it was about gaining the greatest number of Christian followers. But, yeah, the issue is not going to be settled any time as long as there are people willing to sacrifice the greatest likelihood in favor of personal wishful thinking.

But you have already admitted that you are just guessing since you claim almost everything in Biblical scholarship is uncertain.

But, your position is not the benchmark for anyone else. What you have not settled is irrelevant to what others have already settled.

It has been settled or agreed since 1800 years ago that Jesus truly DIVINE.

Now this is not wishful thinking. It is in black and white.

These are some who propagated the DIVINITY of Jesus in antiquity.

1. Ignatius
2. Clement of Rome
3. Clement of Alexandria
4. Polycarp
5. Papias
6. Justin Martyr
7. Irenaeus
8. Tertullian
9. Origen
10. Eusebius
11. Jerome
12. Chrysostom
13. Marcion
14. Valentinus
15. Basilides
16. Marcus

It must be that it is the greatest likelyhood that Jesus was considered DIVINE in antiquity.

The Roman Senate often decreed emperors they liked as divine. This hardly means that there wasn't an actual person who was emperor or that people didn't believe in an actual historical emperor.

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