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Did God laugh with the sinners?
If Jesus is God, why can't he exist in the presence of sin? When i see statements like this by Christian. "God can't abide sin". Sin can't exist in God presence." However, unless you believe that everyone around Jesus was sinless or that Jesus wasn't God, God in the form of Jesus was in the presence of sin. Jesus ate.laugh and drank with sinners (tax collectors, prostitutes) Jesus is still God, as far as I can understand. Jesus appeared after his resurrection, supposedly, to sinful people. Why can't Jesus (God) be in the presence of sin now, when according to the New Testament he was both before and after his resurrection? Jesus somehow managed to live with people who supposedly willingly continued in sin, though. Right? For thirty-three years he somehow managed to live in Palestine with tons of sinful/rebellious people. One would think, based on this, that maybe Jesus/God could live with sinners in the afterlife too? This world is full of sin, so by your logic, God can't come anywhere near this world. If there's an explanation of this, I'd love to hear it. |
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Jesus didn't really say a whole lot, and he wrote nothing, so people from Paul onward have tried to fill in the blanks, with varying degrees of contradiction and silliness. No one who wrote any part of the Bible knew that hundreds of years later people would slap it all together and pretend it was written in one inerrant voice.
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Only the "father" (yahwah, not jebus) who, only thru jebus can people have access to, inorder to get eternal life cannot stand sin. That's why the father cannot visit earth since it last appeared as a burning bush to moses. Burning bushes can withstand sin but the father in his fatherly form cannot.
![]() Of course all know that jebus is not the father while at the same time is the father & also the son plus also part of the holy casper which is also part of the father & part of the son when the power rangers combine. The father in burning bush form can stand sin, the father in partly jebus & partly holy casper form can stand sin as well. It's only when the father in purely father form without the holy casper part & the jebus part cannot stand sin. Of course that won't do when sinners goes to the father in fatherly form to be judge to go hell or heaven as then the father in fatherly form will have problem standing the sin from the sinner. Most likely xians'll then say that the father in fatherly form will be the power rangers combined & he'll have part of jebus & part of the holy casper in it to help withstand the sin. :huh: :rolling: |
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“That's why the father cannot visit earth since it last appeared as a burning bush to Moses. Burning bushes can withstand sin but the father in his fatherly form cannot stand sin. “
Incorrectamundo, oh burning bush breath! The father appeared on earth lots of times in fatherly form, to chat up Abraham, Adam & Eve, Moses “here are the 613…oops, I mean 10 commandments, you can look at my butt but not the naughty bits�? Dealt with sinners like David, wrestled with some guy, no problem in those days, this aversion to sin seems to have started in later times. In fact sin was no real issue in those days, speaking to David: “let me get this straight, you had some guy killed so you could bang his wife? Oh well, shit happens�? OK Lot if you can find 30 righteous people I won’t nuke Sodom 30 no way! Ok how’s about 20? Not gonna happen 15 then? I don’t think so Alright 1, 1 stinking righteous person then OK, your on |
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Well, if the story is true, Jesus himself seemed to rather enjoy the presence of sinners, staying in their homes and partying with them. He was in no way like his Father, the dour, sour, disciplinarian hiding in His heavenly lair. |
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