Ben C Smith

Oh, you mean the IIDB....

(Just kidding, mods!)

Ben.

Toto

"Woo woo" is associated with New Age paranormal trickery fed to gullible consumers. I don't get the idea that it is Solitary Man's main concern.

Why isn't this the default position? Why wouldn't aLuke have read gMatthew?

But I look forward to your dialogue with Goodacre on this question.

Ben C Smith

Is there a default position for the synoptic problem?

I myself do favor the hypothesis that Luke read Matthew (whether a Q document of some kind existed or not), but I hardly regard that as the default position; rather, it is a position staked out with painstaking attention to the minutest of details over the entirety of the synoptic record.

Ben.

Toto

I didn't mean to oversimplify the question, but the idea that aLuke read gMatthew seems like one of those ordinary assertions that does not require some extraordinary degree of proof, as SM seemed to imply.

Ben C Smith

Why not that Matthew read Luke? How much extraordinary proof is required for that one?

Ben.

dog-on

or Mark read ur-luke...

Solitary Man

Which TF? The interpolated version that survived, or perhaps a particular reconstruction? Remember that what survives isn't necessarily what happened. We have great speeches in the mouths of famous people who didn't so much utter a word correlating to that speech (Tacitus was overfond of this device). That doesn't mean that the person didn't exist.

You must separate from the Jesus the legendary stuff is based upon and the Jesus of legend himself.

Solitary Man

Or Luke read Ur-Mark, or one of them read Deutero-Mark. Or heck, Q existed. That Toto seems to be woefully uninformed on the synoptic problem is telling.

aa5874

So your Yeshua existed because of lies about famous people.
Ambiguities, contradictions, inconsistencies and fiction strenghten the mythical position.
What happened to Yeshua or Jesus after he survived his supposed crucifixion, when did he really die?

I came up with nothing.

dog-on

Couldn't agree more. So then, how about an insight into the particular roadmap you use that allows you to do this:

Thanks, in advance.