Raydo97

Atheist Crusader Wrote:
Huh? What does INTERPRETATION have to do with anything? The Bible CLEARLY says that there was a flood, dead people returned to life, a stick turned into a snake, etc. What is there to interpret? Where is the vague scripture that requires an "interpretation?" These "interpretation" arguments are about as bad as the "out of context" arguments made by Christians. Forget interpretation, WHAT DO THE SCRIPTURES SAY?


First, I am not an Atheist... never claimed to be an Atheist.

Second, my opinions are my own. I don't care why people make fun of you.

Third, I will continue to make these kinds of statements until someone brings forth a Christian text that's in harmony with science. What's more, I will make these claims repeatedly and I will use you as a reference.

Calzaer

Prove it.

Atheist Crusader

Listen, I'm not even going to bother quoting what you said, since you obviously didn't read my post... I said that a literal interpretation of the Bible (as being completely and literally true in every way) is not a requirement for religion (You know, how there are probably literally a million other religions out there) and I really don't think that every person who would call themselves a Christian would say they take the Bible literally (IE, believing there really was a huge flood, that Genesis is literal in its entirety, and so forth). Of course, without taking the Bible literally... I don't know why you would call yourself a Christian... but people do. What is also funny about your post is that you act as if I was saying the Bible was compatible with science, instead of saying that not all Christians believe the Bible to be true in every single way.... but you know, I'm just a moron atheist who assumes random things. You do know that just because statments like yours give atheists a bad name, doesn't necessarily imply you are an atheist yourself. People make judgements about 'atheistic statements' which they often take as any statement against there religion. I'm sorry for the confusion I probably brought about in my anger, and I hope you'll forgive any undue stress I've caused you.

Raydo97

Relax. I'm just screwing with you. Actually, I probably SHOULD have said "Christianity/The Bible is incompatible with science" instead of "religion." There are MANY other religions.

Of course, I find that religion in general tends to be incompatible with science, as any system based on BELIEF tends to be contrary to a system that requires PROOF & VERIFICATION.

By the way... Christianity's not my bag.

I'm Agnostic!

Karalora

Also, that religious devotion always makes people good and moral. This is clearly not the case.

These same qualifiers apply to #7, "that religion has been a plus for mankind". Obviously, we can look at aspects of society for which religion is helpful--it helps cement tribal identity, for instance (humans, being social animals, have this funny need to belong to a group). The specific myth, if you want to call it that, is that only religion can provide such benefits, and that it is always more beneficial than harmful.

This, I think, depends on what is meant by "compatible". As Heather Dawn points out, science and religion are not compatible when they try to describe the same things. But there is nothing inconsistent about a person who is both scientific and religious, provided they don't confuse the two.

Fr.Andrew

(Fr Andrew): Of course we can't deny the postive aspects of religion...there are many. The myth is that religion, on balance, has been a plus for mankind.



(Fr Andrew): I suggest that anyone who claims to embrace a scientific worldview--and the supernatural view of the universe necessary for religious faith--is not being very honest with himself.
Science is based on observation of the natural world, religion is based on faith in the supernatural world. They are not compatible.
Imo.

JoeWallack

JW:
From our Home Temple in Jerusalem, King Dave's Top Christian Myth:

1) Christianity.


Considering Bede's original list of supposed Atheist myths let's compare for example the myth of Christianity with the supposed myth that Hitler was Christian. As Christianity is based primarily on the supposed Supernatural we can be assured that there is no other belief that could be more of a myth (except possibly that the Cubs will return to win a World Series SOON). Compare this with the belief that Hitler was Christian which requires no Supernatural explanation. In addition, we have undisputed writings and pictures of Hitler (as opposed to evidence for the Christian Bible) and the Catholic Church implying that THEY considered him Christian as well as the observations that Hitler paid Church dues all his life and to this day is considered a member in good standing by the Catholic Church. In addition, a significant portion of current Christianity assures us that if Hitler sincerely accepted Jesus before he died that he will be in Heaven for eternity.


Joseph

MYTHOLOGY, n.
The body of a primitive people's beliefs concerning its origin, early history, heroes, deities and so forth, as distinguished from the true accounts which it invents later.

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