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Old 05-17-2004, 06:26 AM   #1
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Default Experience and knowledge

Only when you experience will you know
Because you know doesn't make you experience



When you experience a rollercoaster you will know what it feels like
Because you know you can ride it doesn't make you experience it





So first experience, then knowledge?


Is this why first impressions are so "important", because we always refer, in our mind, to that first impression?

The first impression has to be smooth sailing?




Is it true that in order to know something, you must experience it.

Is it; to know 'evil' is to experience evil, both as the doer and receiver?

Likewise, to know good you must experience it.


Is it true, that to have an experience, you must become the experience?


To see a flower is not to experience a flower, to experience you must become the flower.


Those who claim they know, must experience, those who experience are their experience


To know is to be
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Does my knowledge of God's nonexistence require me to have experienced God not existing?
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To know is only in the present tense
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What?
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So first experience, then knowledge?
That experience precedes knowledge in time and in priority is a physical and metaphysical truism. As matter can be conceived of as a condensation of energy, so too can knowledge be conceived of as a condensation of experience. Knowledge is experience remembered, that is, experience abstracted.

It follows, therefore, that God is not all-knowing (in our sense of the word). For to be all-knowing, God would have to be all-experiencing. And for God to be all-experiencing, there would have to be something besides God for God to experience. But prior to creation: “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.�? [Last Gospel of John] That is, God is really all that there ever was.

Ergo, tho God does not know or experience anything, He is being everything. His non-experiential “knowledge�? is derived from Himself as the Being whereby all things are suspended in existence. For example, whereas at best we can understand and model every aspect of an explosion, God virtually IS every aspect of the explosion. He more than knows or experiences the explosion; He expresses Himself by the explosion.

Just as a smile expresses something about me but is in itself not me, so too do all things (all explosions, all universal laws, all grains of sand) express something about God without being God. Thus, the Catholic God is saved from being a pantheistic god and the no-nothing god of the Deists. – Sincerely, Albert the Traditional Catholic
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Would you agree with:

First is the being(sat) then there is the knowledge/consciousness(chit) and then bliss/ecstasy(ananda).


God = sat-chit-ananda

Is any expression of God blissful, due to the fact that God expresses it?
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A funny thing I just noticed;


To know is to be


This sentence is under it's own scrutiny.

You cannot know if this is true, by the words, only by experiencing this will it be known
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Old 05-18-2004, 06:25 AM   #9
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you know what you remember...

it would not necessarily be experience...
 
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anything re-membered, must have been experienced

If you don't know now, you knew


While you are riding a rollercoaster, you know what it is to ride it

When you finish, you don't know anymore, you knew
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