Riddick

are they sure two will do it?

of course they permit several of their members, including a "Upchurch" to set the standard, yet, i don't see him with a double-secret lifetime ban.

perhaps the atheist younglings need protection.

Chicken Girl

Discussions of other forums go ~elsewhere~.

Riddick

JREF Forum rules include the following: "The JREF wishes civility be the norm and will endeavor to ensure that civility will be the norm, however this does not mean that Members will be insulated from all insults or challenges; the nature of the forum inevitably involves strong emotions and opinions which can result in heated exchanges"

How did both of you establish that my email in the "Contact Us" was outside of the description of this paragraph? How is it that you provide a "double-standard", wherein your JREF forum members are allowed to post hatred toward me, but you find my "Contact Us" email unacceptable?

Further, you issued a double-secret ban, pictured here: click this. Without any sort of email to me about your double-ban within 60 seconds of eachother. It is very interesting you squeezed out two of those within 60 seconds of eachother. It appears rushed and haphazard in nature. Now, you may look at this as an attack on you personally, but it is only a good-natured attack on your lack of savvy.

You know, maybe I should attend TAM. Maybe that'd be a good place for me to work on you guys in real-time. Can you handle real-time assaults on your intelligence and impromptu speech ability? My skills there are honed.

Trust me, you don't have the verbal skills to stay with me. Not one of your guys. Not on any stage, not in any lifetime.

Regards,
Gary "Riddick" Berthelsen, Esq.


Darat <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi

After you were initially suspended you sent an abusive email to the “Contact Us” email address; I discussed the matter with Jeff Wagg and based on the suspension and the abusive email you sent to us we decided that you were no longer welcome as Member of the forum.

Regards

Darat – Forum Admin.

Riddick

interesting. i greatly doubt that this "~~Elsewhere~~" is where you would put a post with the same contents, which was OP'd by yourself. i've seen other posts on your forums discussing activity at JREF. why don't you move those here as well?

Alethias

That is a link to the JREF user control panel. It's probably going to show you something different than other members there see, and both are surely different than what I see, since I don't even have an account there.

Just a little bit of FYI for ya.

Riddick

Yea, I saw that. I'll send out a follow-up.

Edit: Here's the link: click-here



Here's what I sent to Randi and friends today. It's pretty interesting to read Randi's reply. He looks shaken, pretty funny to see the old man off balance. btw, he uses huge print in his emails, he must be losing his vision. wonder how he can verify tests against his $1,000,000 bounty.

Note: Randi contradicts himself with these statements: "Did it ever occur to you that your agonizing situation doesn’t concern me at all? We run the Forum as we want to..."

apparently presentation skills are something he's severely lacking.

From: Gary Berthelsen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:05 PM
To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Regarding double-ban from JREF forums.



JREF Forum rules include the following: "The JREF wishes civility be the norm and will endeavor to ensure that civility will be the norm, however this does not mean that Members will be insulated from all insults or challenges; the nature of the forum inevitably involves strong emotions and opinions which can result in heated exchanges"

How did both of you establish that my email in the "Contact Us" was outside of the description of this paragraph? How is it that you provide a "double-standard", wherein your JREF forum members are allowed to post hatred toward me, but you find my "Contact Us" email unacceptable?

Further, you issued a double-secret ban, pictured here: click this. Without any sort of email to me about your double-ban within 60 seconds of eachother. It is very interesting you squeezed out two of those within 60 seconds of eachother. It appears rushed and haphazard in nature. Now, you may look at this as an attack on you personally, but it is only a good-natured attack on your lack of savvy.

You know, maybe I should attend TAM. Maybe that'd be a good place for me to work on you guys in real-time. Can you handle real-time assaults on your intelligence and impromptu speech ability? My skills there are honed.

Trust me, you don't have the verbal skills to stay with me. Not one of your guys. Not on any stage, not in any lifetime.

Regards,
Gary "Riddick" Berthelsen, Esq.

rigorist

Where are you licensed to practice?

Alethias

I'm not defending James Randi, nor am I defending you, since I don't know either of you well enough, nor the situation, to mount a defense either way.

But I honestly don't see the contradiction in his words that you see.

I also fail to see how commentary on his usage of largish fonts pertains to the specific matter of you being banned from JREF. My wife uses large fonts and she has 20/20 vision and always has. Some people just like large fonts for some reason I can't fathom. I have horrible vision corrected with glasses and tend to use fonts that she finds illegible. go figure.

BioBeing

Is it not possible that there were two simply due to a server error? We often see double posting here. Other than that - so what? You got banned.

Spherical Time

I would move it, if I saw Chicken Girl post it. That's because it's meta-discussion about another forum.

I agree with BioBeing. It looks like there was a server glitch and the ban was sent twice. We get double posts here occasionally that stem from a similar problem.