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Joe Bloe · 07-18-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Reason

Because it would look funny as hell, people walking around with little guillotines on their lapels and on chains around their necks.

If he had been hanged, Christians would have to go around wearing a noose around their necks.

Oh, wait, lots of men wear ties ...

Joe Bloe · 07-18-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by marc

well then Christians would all go around with little toilets hanging around their necks. And I'd hate to think of the religious ceremonies some groups would come up with, especially for Easter.

You mean like bobbing for eggs? ("Hey, those things had better be eggs!")

Tom Sawyer · 07-18-2008, 08:25 AM

I've heard Christians assert that he had to spend those three days he was dead in Hell and that's why it was so bad. I'm not sure if that claim is backed up by scripture.

Even if that's true, though, I don't see why that would be a problem. It's not like Satan would torture him, since Jesus was an incarnation of God and all he'd have to say was "Hey bitch, remember me? I'm the guy that beat your ass down last time. Lay a finger on me while I'm in my human form and I'll be back in four days after I've reascended to discuss it further with you."

Satan's a pussy compared to God (guy who's not omnipotent vs guy who is omnipotent), so God has nothing to worry about from Satan.

Joe Bloe · 07-18-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

I've heard Christians assert that he had to spend those three days he was dead in Hell and that's why it was so bad. I'm not sure if that claim is backed up by scripture.

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Originally Posted by Luke

One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: "Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us!" But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong." Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."

Unless Hell is paradise, I'm not sure how well that assertion holds up.

Tom Sawyer · 07-18-2008, 11:31 AM

OK, looks like the guy who who told me that was talking out of his ass.

So then the crucifiction seems like a waste of time. He hung out in the open air for a bit and then popped back home to make sure that the neighbour's kid had fed the dog and collected the mail and then came back to say goodbye to everyone before heading back to the house to relax on the patio.

What a useless basis of a religion.

tsbach · 07-18-2008, 12:08 PM

Look up Apollonius of Nazarene for a good comparison to Jesus. His life almost parallels that of Jesus right down to the crucifixion.

Bullmoose Too · 07-19-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Reason

Because it would look funny as hell, people walking around with little guillotines on their lapels and on chains around their necks.

Had he been executed in modern USA, we would have Our Lady of the Holy Hypodermic Needle or people driving around with tiny electric chairs affixed to their dashboards.

Aesthetics, man, aesthetics.

How about that Gitmo example? Walking around with a mini-prison on your neck. Complete with guard towers and fences.

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Originally Posted by HaysooChreesto!

Anyway, He needed to suffer so badly because he was paying for everyone's sins.

You can make him watch Plan Nine from Outer Space until dead.

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07-18-2008, 08:25 AM	#23
Tom Sawyer Talk Freethought Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, eh Posts: 42,293	I've heard Christians assert that he had to spend those three days he was dead in Hell and that's why it was so bad. I'm not sure if that claim is backed up by scripture. Even if that's true, though, I don't see why that would be a problem. It's not like Satan would torture him, since Jesus was an incarnation of God and all he'd have to say was "Hey bitch, remember me? I'm the guy that beat your ass down last time. Lay a finger on me while I'm in my human form and I'll be back in four days after I've reascended to discuss it further with you." Satan's a pussy compared to God (guy who's not omnipotent vs guy who is omnipotent), so God has nothing to worry about from Satan.

07-18-2008, 11:31 AM	#25
Tom Sawyer Talk Freethought Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, eh Posts: 42,293	OK, looks like the guy who who told me that was talking out of his ass. So then the crucifiction seems like a waste of time. He hung out in the open air for a bit and then popped back home to make sure that the neighbour's kid had fed the dog and collected the mail and then came back to say goodbye to everyone before heading back to the house to relax on the patio. What a useless basis of a religion.

07-18-2008, 12:08 PM	#26
tsbach Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 42	Look up Apollonius of Nazarene for a good comparison to Jesus. His life almost parallels that of Jesus right down to the crucifixion.

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