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Old 09-05-2003, 11:25 PM   #1
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i think the 2 sides of my brain were somehow in conflict most of my life. i was somehow a socialist and anti government at the same time not realizing that i was being hypocritical.

i've been reading from www.capitalism.org and enjoying it. I also plan to read up on such things as american history and other systems similar to capitalism.

im also reading that shirer book on the nazis. the book is great to read and yes adolf was a screwball and no i wouldnt want him around or his reich.
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i think the 2 sides of my brain were somehow in conflict most of my life. i was somehow a socialist and anti government at the same time not realizing that i was being hypocritical.
Well, if you genuinely believed both, that wasn't hypocrisy. Even if the two were contradictory, that's cognitive dissonance (I think), not hypocrisy if belief is genuine.

For what it's worth, have you looked into socialist anarchism? It weds both socialism and anti government views, and is quite consistent. And I suggest reading about socialist anarchism in places other than capitalism.org (read what they have to say, but read about it elsewhere too).
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i have been asked in the past to produce evidence of jews controling the media and government. i give you exhibit A.

a qoute from a pro socialism site here in canada.

-Under the Liberals' watch, media ownership has fallen into the hands of only a few big companies that now own virtually every radio, television and major newspaper in the country.

-One company, CanWest Global - a major contributor to the Liberal Party - now owns 40 per cent of our print media as well as television stations in 8 provinces reaching 88 per cent of English-speaking Canadians.

now this to me goes inline with the pragmatic evidence capitalism likes to use as proofs. doesnt it?

if the jews vote for liberals does this not prove that they are not the friends of capitalism? and does it matter that the ndp and liberals seem to argue but are both non indivisdualistic in nature. they are essentialy the same team and the jews are with them.

does israel send any type of troops support with the US or has israel massed forces on a common ground watchig capitalists interests spread it self thin?

maybe this doesnt mean anything in the grand scheme of things, but i as the ever observant former socialist must go to extremes to understand properly. i hope you can understand this.

all capitalists should fear the oppressive canadian government.

this is a link to the socialist party of canada ndp website where i got that quote.
http://action.web.ca/home/ndpnpd/en_...b0a6e184c83a47


p.s i cant find it now but the ndp wants to open up a huge amount of mental hospitals here in canada. its my belief that they plan to incarcerate capitalists as soon as possible. believe me when i tell you as a former socialist that i would have been in complete agreement with the removal of capitalists by the state.

there are others which share this sentiment. i am a socialist. i do not ever stop think of controls. supression is key. others that are like i was will surely be the incohearant destroyers of mankind.

p.s.s CanWest Global in my personal inquires with most everyone i meet in canada is either known, or believed to be owned by or in in large part by jews, by most of the population. i use that as evidence in my momment of asking faith in what i say.
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Most French-speaking media in Quebec is owned either by P�ladeau's Qu�b�cor Inc. or Desmarais's Power Corp. both good Catholic families.

I guess Catholics are planning to take over the world.
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i think the 2 sides of my brain were somehow in conflict most of my life. i was somehow a socialist and anti government at the same time not realizing that i was being hypocritical.

i've been reading from www.capitalism.org and enjoying it. I also plan to read up on such things as american history and other systems similar to capitalism.

im also reading that shirer book on the nazis. the book is great to read and yes adolf was a screwball and no i wouldnt want him around or his reich.
Right of the bat that website has flaws.

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2. What is a capitalist?
An advocate of laissez-faire is known as a capitalist, i.e., novelist Ayn Rand is a capitalist; i.e., though economically Engels came from a wealthy background, politically he is recognized as a socialist/communist because of his ideas.
This is a very stupid way to define what a Capitlaist is, and one that does not provide any insight into understanding capitlaism.

ICapitalist has 2 basic definitions, one is simply "One who beleives in capitalism", but that is not very useful, the other tells you what a Capitlaist really IS, and that is: "An investor of capital in business, especially one having a major financial interest in an important enterprise."
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ok so theres still no link to a jew conspiracey. but i tell you if the socialists win in the states and canada at the same time it will be curtains for anything resembling capitalism/freedom.

im still confused why soo many would believe the jews are a problem. someone is broadcasting a message of hate. if its not he jews then its the government.

i was willing to see innocent capitalists elminated from the global equation and leave in their place my socialist government. thats a crazy message that i have been getting for the longest time. practically since i can remember.

hiow are notions put into peoples minds?
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ok so theres still no link to a jew conspiracey. but i tell you if the socialists win in the states and canada at the same time it will be curtains for anything resembling capitalism/freedom.

im still confused why soo many would believe the jews are a problem. someone is broadcasting a message of hate. if its not he jews then its the government.

i was willing to see innocent capitalists elminated from the global equation and leave in their place my socialist government. thats a crazy message that i have been getting for the longest time. practically since i can remember.

hiow are notions put into peoples minds?
How are notions put into your mind? Obviously just about everything you state is some vomited up propaganda, but that's just teh way it goes, the majority of Americans and many in Canada too I supect have fallen for the right wing propaganda hook line and sinker, and you are oen of them, welcome to the club, the club of mindless idiots with no consistant worldview.

Go jump at a few more shadows.

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Old 09-06-2003, 11:31 AM   #8
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here is another coincidence for the forum to mull over.

i just recieved a call from rogers here at home. they wanted to speak with my mother who has very little english savvy. i took the phone from her hand and spoke to the representative of rogers asking what was the problem.

this rogers rep asked when we would be picking up the phone we needed. i asked what phone my mother had ordered and was told of a special offer that we should comply with.

i then got into a bit of an argument with the rep because i felt offended that she disturbed my mothers work and mine that we were busy with. i told this rep we will call you when we want a phone or service that you may provide.

isnt it against the law to solicite business? most places of business have signs explicitly mentioning no soliciting.

somehow the rep for rogers thought to call my house and disturb our work and privacy was ok. she called me an idiot for not accepting an offer i had never actualy looked at on paper or asked for. isnt that insane? or am i?

i then asked for this rep to not call my house again and remove my mom from whatever list she had. she hung up on me then called back with a prank call.

im a socialist by programing. so i am afraid of these socialists people now because i can think as they do.

the clear message is to accept war with america/capitalism. if you are not or never were socialist you can not understand because you are not on the same wave lenght as me and them.
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Old 09-06-2003, 11:35 AM   #9
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no sir i am not an idiot. i was at one point more ignorant then i am now but am learning by reading and asking questions. questions that have a right to be heard and responded to.

i now believe in individualism, i came from respecting hitler to this point. so dont call me an idiot please ;-)

p.s environmentalists should regard capitalism as an endangered species.



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How are notions put into your mind? Obviously just about everything you state is some vomited up propaganda, but that's just teh way it goes, the majority of Americans and many in Canada too I supect have fallen for the right wing propaganda hook line and sinker, and you are oen of them, welcome to the club, the club of mindless idiots with no consistant worldview.

Go jump at a few more shadows.

www.rationalrevolution.net
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Old 09-06-2003, 11:37 AM   #10
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York,

Do you think the Jews are attempting to take over the world? I need to know because if it is so, we need to create an action plan now. The proper authorities should be located and notified. We will need people in high places and plenty of financing. Recruitment for an expert in propaganda should commence immediately.

If what you say is true then we haven't much time. It may already be too late. All rational and reasonble gentiles should amass now and combine their efforts. The fate of all mankind is at stake.

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