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sotto voce · 01-20-2013, 07:17 AM

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Anyone who uses the title field of the reply should be banned.

And top-posters.

Sheshbazzar · 01-20-2013, 09:48 AM

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'domen h'sooce'- "The horse is shit.", if that is the way you wish to read it,...

Sheesh, Shesh, shoosh!

הסוס דמן is not "The horse is shit", but "shit of the horse", which is as near as you'll get in literal significance to the idiomatic structure in English "horseshit".

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...is also fine with me, as being so read you are confirming that it is NOT a translation of, nor the equivalent of the English ejaculatory expression "horseshit", and as I pointed out in post #97 I never employ the word 'horseshit' in my posts.

Churning out a literal translation of the parts "horse" and "shit" and sticking them together is devoid of sense, unless you specifically want to say something like "The horse is shit", which doesn't give you the sentiment in "horseshit".

Exactly. Thank you spin for again confirming that the words so translated do not mean 'horseshit!'. I do NOT intend them to mean 'horseshit!'.
I am not attempting to present the sentiment 'horseshit!'
To me 'The Horse is shit', _ 'Ha'sooce' is shit'. No problem.

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הסוס דמן is not "The horse is shit", but "shit of the horse",

When someone dumps a steaming load of Gospel Horse shit, as far as I am concerned, it is the "shit of The Horse". Hay'sooce.

So I call it the "shit of The Horse", or the 'manure of The Horse'. The Gospel is not The Horse itself, but what The Horse has produced; stinking CRAP.

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Speakers of English may tend to use scatological ejaculations to indicate something is nonsense, but other languages will probably not. Ancient Hebrew doesn't seem to provide you with anything useful, so you gotta go modern, שטויות, shtooyot, "nonsense".
I'm sure there's something in modern colloquial Hebrew that can help you, rather than using things that will only make sense to you.

I am not seeking for any Hebrew equivelent of, or expression for 'horseshit!' either ancient or modern, as I have attempted to explain since post #97.

I guess I'll leave you in all this

:horsecrap:

And I'll go on pointing out that all of that christian h'sooce- Ha'sus - Ea'sus - 'Jesus' - horse shit that you are standing on is nothing other than 'horse shit'.

And will go on shoveling, hauling out, and burying that rotten christian ea'sooce -'Jesus' horse shit until the day there is no more christian 'Jesus' horse shit left.

Even the name -'JESUS'- is nothing more than the half digested hay of pure fabricated christian horse shit. And that's a fact Jack.

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steve_bnk · 01-20-2013, 12:35 PM

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I do not get why some want to exclude and can not just rationally ignore that which one does not want to respond to.

I think there are three types of people who come here:

1. the people who see this as the opportunity to get 'work' done - i.e. they take the problem of what Christianity or Judaism is seriously and know they don't know all the answers and see the need to collaborate with others to help work toward the truth
2. the people that have an inflexible opinion about what religion is, don't see the need to 'work' or collaborate beyond bringing people over to their own opinion
3. the casual observer who way or may not have firm opinions about religion, but see no reason to 'work' toward any goal beyond entertaining themselves with this - a discussion among many discussions at this site.

I classify myself as (1). I come here to engage in the exchange of ideas because I recognize that this is the only way to grow as a thinker and student of knowledge. I can get along perfectly fine with (3) especially when they remain disinterested observers and generally polite. It is the (2) types who are the problems for me. They clutter the discussions and disrupt 'getting work done' and collaboration by often pretending to engage in constructive discussions.

Further response on my part would end up in pointless peronall commentary.

However it would de emblematic of trhe BCH forum. This thread has become one giant derail and is a microcosm of the BCH forum.

I will add, growth yes. Growth for anyone who wants to partcipate. no one user gets to to mold the discourse to suit a persdoanl vision.

I believe blogs on the forum can limit access. Maybe that is your solution. But then only a few chosen ones will see the grand intelects at work...where's the fun in that?

To your list I'd add the people who participate for self aggrandizement. Not that there is anything wrong with self aggrandizement as long as ones stays within the TOU.

If you are unfamiliar Self Aggrandizement being enahncing or inflating one's personal sense of importance.

From a social perspective for us non believers the value o this BCH forum is in the paticiupation of people who are not biblical and historcal experts. people on bioth sides.

Theists come and go and make their arguments which meet strong reasoned response. Whether details and form may be lacking iMO is irrelevant.

I have the same view on science forums where creatinism is routinely engaged. A ways back I was getting perturbed at something and realized the fact that people with little science who particpte may walk away with something is really what matters.

For me it is not about knowing more than another user on science, it is about promoting engagement by those with less experince and knowledge.

spin · 01-20-2013, 12:59 PM

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And I'll go on pointing out that all of that christian h'sooce- Ha'sus - Ea'sus - 'Jesus' - horse shit that you are standing on is nothing other than 'horse shit'.

And will go on shoveling, hauling out, and burying that rotten christian ea'sooce -'Jesus' horse shit until the day there is no more christian 'Jesus' horse shit left.

Even the name -'JESUS'- is nothing more than the half digested hay of pure fabricated christian horse shit. And that's a fact Jack.

This is all that anyone can expect from you on the subject. Banal wordplay barely veiling bad attitude.

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Sheshbazzar · 01-20-2013, 02:29 PM

I consider it a very good and extremely positive attitude and expectation, that one fine day all of this 'christian' horse shit will at last be finished with and gone.
Makes me go through my days with both heart and lips singing for pure joy.

תכתב זאת לדור אחרון ועם נברא יהלל־ יה׃
הללו־יה הללו־יה הללו־יה
כי הסוס מת ויפל רכבו אחור׃
הללו־יה

spin · 01-20-2013, 03:29 PM

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I consider it a very good and extremely positive attitude and expectation, that one fine day all of this 'christian' horse shit will at last be finished with and gone.
Makes me go through my days with both heart and lips singing for pure joy.

תכתב זאת לדור אחרון ועם נברא יהלל־ יה׃

Hey, wow, you can quote from a psalm in Hebrew. Very few will understand. No-one but you will appreciate the effort of copying and pasting. It is only for your benefit and it contributes nothing. Sheesh, Shesh, shoosh. Don't let your lip trip you up.

Jaybees · 01-20-2013, 03:33 PM

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I consider it a very good and extremely positive attitude and expectation, that one fine day all of this 'christian' horse shit will at last be finished with and gone.
Makes me go through my days with both heart and lips singing for pure joy.

תכתב זאת לדור אחרון ועם נברא יהלל־ יה׃

Hey, wow, you can quote from a psalm in Hebrew. Very few will understand. No-one but you will appreciate the effort of copying and pasting. It is only for your benefit and it contributes nothing. Sheesh, Shesh, shoosh. Don't let your lip trip you up.

Look, if Shesh gets even a smidgeon of joy from puflishing hebrew or arabic or punjabi script, don't pick on him. There's little enough happiness in this world.

spin · 01-20-2013, 04:16 PM

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Look, if Shesh gets even a smidgeon of joy from puflishing hebrew or arabic or punjabi script, don't pick on him. There's little enough happiness in this world.

There's quite a bit of happiness in the world when you are involved in reasonable human interaction. The better the interaction, the more happiness. Public exhibition doesn't lead to happiness, but is a sign of alienation.

Sheshbazzar · 01-20-2013, 04:30 PM

Yep, I gotta admit I'm alienated from all of the Jesus horse shit that people try to peddle 'in Jesus name'.

Of course that makes me alienated from the Church, and from 'Christian America', and from popular opinion ....and that's why I'm here.

This statement is completely in English, and I believe most readers here will be able to understand it very well.

Chili · 01-20-2013, 05:30 PM

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[Even the name -'JESUS'- is nothing more than the half digested hay of pure fabricated christian horse shit. And that's a fact Jack.

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If anything I'd call it second hand oats from tempered horses with spirit and charm to get believers to follow, and flip pages without end to swallow it all.

Even though we are critics here, looking for evidence is only to confirm what we deny because it just won't go away on it's own. And so we are like impoverished believers who can be placed opposite to enriched believers with gnostic at the end that gnostic-ism is trying to reach.

A way to 'clean up this place' would be to call it British Analytic Criticism to match its philosophy and capitalize the words HISTORY AND ARCHEOLOGY to exclude intuit induction and let aa have the very last word.

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01-20-2013, 02:29 PM	#155
Sheshbazzar Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: On the path of knowledge Posts: 8,889	I consider it a very good and extremely positive attitude and expectation, that one fine day all of this 'christian' horse shit will at last be finished with and gone. Makes me go through my days with both heart and lips singing for pure joy. תכתב זאת לדור אחרון ועם נברא יהלל־ יה׃ הללו־יה הללו־יה הללו־יה כי הסוס מת ויפל רכבו אחור׃ הללו־יה

01-20-2013, 04:30 PM	#159
Sheshbazzar Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: On the path of knowledge Posts: 8,889	Yep, I gotta admit I'm alienated from all of the Jesus horse shit that people try to peddle 'in Jesus name'. Of course that makes me alienated from the Church, and from 'Christian America', and from popular opinion ....and that's why I'm here. This statement is completely in English, and I believe most readers here will be able to understand it very well.

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