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I was looking at it differently. Since the author of Acts didn't mention any elements of the world and actions of a gospel Jesus, it would appear that he didn't know the gospel stories at all, despite the alleged link to Luke.
And if Acts was also written before the epistles, then apparently the author believed his Christ system didn't need a written account of the Christ. So what then did a story about Peter and Paul serve? Let's also not forget that even the original Nicene Creed made no mention even of the virgin birth or the resurrection .... Quote:
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My theory is that gMark story was really the impetus for the start of the Jesus Christ cult where it was believed that the Jewish Temple was destroyed and Jerusalem made desolate because the Jews REJECTED and crucified Jesus who fed, and healed and cast out demons from the hungry, poor and evil Jews. gMark is not a Salvation story it is an explanation for the Fall of the Jewish and it would appear people of antiquity BELIEVED the gMark's story and that Jesus was COMING back SOON. The Jesus story in gMark was changed AFTER it was realized that the so-called prophecies in gMark were not coming to pass. "This Generation" had ALREADY passed. The so-called FAILED Prophecies in gMARK of the Second Coming is a very important clue as to when gMark may have been written. gMark was most likely written within a "GENERATION" of the timeline for gMark's Jesus story or within a "GENERATION" of the time of Pilate, and more likely close to the END of the "GENERATION" Mr 13:30 - Quote:
There are NO FAILED Second Coming Prophecies in "this generation" in gJohn. In gJohn, remarkably, Jesus did NOT ever state he would return in "this generation". The author of gJohn wrote about the Comforter instead and in Acts of the Apostles, the Comforter, the Holy Ghost was received on the day of Pentecost. |
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But then don't you have to account for the fact that neither Acts nor epistles mentions anything from the Mark story which you would argue came after Mark but before the other epistles??
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Virtually all the books of the Canon, except the Gospels, have very little about the life of Jesus SIMPLE because they were written AFTER the Jesus story were ALREADY KNOWN and CIRCULATED. |
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Except that it is extremely hard to believe that the entire book wouldn't have any mention whatsoever of any aphorisms or events of their Savior or any mention of the stories of apostles when they were with their Savior. Something. It just doesn't make sense that stories of apostles wouldn't say a thing.
In fact, your explanation is exactly the same as those who justify the lack of mention of the life and words of Jesus in the epistles, I.e. because the recipients already knew all about it --- which of course we know makes no sense. |
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Oh, I've read them many times.
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ACTS of the APOSTLES is about the ACTS of the APOSTLES AFTER Jesus LEFT earth in a cloud. Now, look at Acts 2, it is claimed Peter did give PREACH about Jesus. Quote:
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But these statements are very generic.Not a messiah but a resurrected holy miracle man who the epistles don't discuss. No salvation involved here and nothing related to the Mark storyline.
In any case the epistles strangely following Acts knew nothing of Nazareth. |
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Again, Acts of the Apostles is about the ACTIVITIES of the Apostles AFTER Jesus LEFT in a cloud to heaven. Acts of the Apostles will tell us about the Gifts of the Holy Ghost and TALKING in Tongues on the day of Pentecost and that 2000 persons were converted on the very day after Peter Preached the Gospel with the Holy Ghost POWER. Acts of the Apostles is about the POWER of the HOLY GHOST and the START of the Jesus cult of Christians, |
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BUT we can see that this has nothing to do with the ideas of the epistles that came afterwards from the same group that wrote Acts first. And certainly the epistles record nothing of the stories of Mark and the Son of Man that would have preceded Mark.
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