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Old 04-06-2004, 06:20 PM   #11
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Ah, threats; the last refuge of the believer. "I don't have any evidence, logic, or even an attractive deity to believe in...but if you don't believe in him, you'll be sorry!"
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Old 04-06-2004, 07:03 PM   #12
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Well if you guys want to justify your pride, then by all means do so. You can put down my posts (as if that could change the truth), argue against it and deny it, but I guarantee you will be humbled. Again, that's your choice. You will be held accountable for it.
I'm thinking a messiah complex.

What about my fellow kaffirs?
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Old 04-06-2004, 07:06 PM   #13
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Well if you guys want to justify your pride, then by all means do so.
The supposed problem of "pride" is an invention of your religion.

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You can put down my posts (as if that could change the truth), argue against it and deny it, but I guarantee you will be humbled. Again, that's your choice. You will be held accountable for it.
Again, you seem mighty proud in your supposed knowledge wherewith you "guarantee" we "prideful" unbelievers will be humbled while you'll be "exalted". I'm having a hard time seeing much if any humility in your posts here...
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Old 04-06-2004, 07:06 PM   #14
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this Joyfiled fellow, he/she will post a couple of more new topics about us, stubborn, arrogant, "pride-filled" atheists for a milennia to come. From his/her replies, he/she doesn't even bothered to read all the posts properly judging from his/her replies.

Just let it rest and let it rap. :boohoo:
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Old 04-06-2004, 07:07 PM   #15
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Pride and arrogance lead to foolish actions. Humility leads to wisdom.
Submit to your own teaching, and humble yourself.

Trying to convert atheists on an atheist discussion board is a difficult task at the best of times. Your task is only made more difficult when your words seem full of the same pride and arrogance you preach against. If your responses ignore the real questions and challenges posed in other people's posts, you will convince no one.

So I suggest being humble, as you have advised others to be. Read what they say and respond with the loving kindness you would expect from your master. I haven't read all of your posts (maybe a dozen), but I really don't know how you expect others to see Christ in your example.
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Old 04-06-2004, 09:12 PM   #16
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Mageth, you say "pride" is an invention of Christianity. Yet you use the word proud when talking about me. Which is it? Does pride exist or not? If it doesn't, then you can't call me proud. You contradict yourself. That's what lies do to a person.

Whatever good in me comes from God, not me. I can take pride in nothing. To whom do you give credit for your goodness, jafosei?

That's right, Sarpedon. You've been told what the truth is. You are accountable for your attitudes, behavior, and decisions. True adults accept this. Sorry.

Dissident agressor, you have shown your incapacity to understand basic logic, and of course true wisdom. Your attempts at attributing those concepts to the fictional Jim Jones Jr. betray the lack of a better refutation.

No, Starboy, I don't expect you to be transformed. You have a long way to go before you understand true wisdom. "For God's wisdom is foolishness to those who are perishing." That certainly shows itself to be true on this forum. Once again, the bible is right.

Solomon had the humility to admit that seeking worldly things goes nowhere. You haven't gotten to that point yet.

Pride is what makes a person look like a fool. Again, one who boasts will easily be humbled. Children understand these concepts!

Stand up for yourself? All you are responsible for is telling the truth. Or don't you believe in the truth? That's right, you admit you don't know it.

How can I be proud of your pride? That doesn't make any sense at all.

You indeed have chosen to believe your opinions are truer than God's. Who do you think is responsible for your decisions? Your neighbor?

A cruel God forgives you for rape, murder, stealing, cursing Him, rejecting Him, hating your neighbor, believing your opinions over His, ignoring His words, using people for sex? i know of no human being who forgives all of those things. Or don't you like to focus on His love, only the evil you think He creates. Where's your accountability in all of this? Or don't you like to take responsibility for your behavior? Atheists love to take credit for the good in their lives and blame God for the bad. Guilty people do that all the time.

Jesus's "will" is in the bible for all the world to see. How can i take pride in HIS words?

These arguments aren't even good. You're simply grasping at straws. Where there aren't contradictions, there are false claims. You people have to be desperate to come up with these ridiculous arguments. They don't change the truth one bit. Sorry.
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Joyfilled,

All of your "arguments" rely on your claim that your god exists. Please either provide a proof of this claim or concede.

Sincerely,

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No, Starboy, I don't expect you to be transformed. You have a long way to go before you understand true wisdom. "For God's wisdom is foolishness to those who are perishing." That certainly shows itself to be true on this forum. Once again, the bible is right.
And you have a lot to learn about atheists. I also think you have a lot to learn about your own religion.

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That's right, Sarpedon. You've been told what the truth is. You are accountable for your attitudes, behavior, and decisions. True adults accept this. Sorry.
Now there's a version of NTS I've never seen before.
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Dissident agressor, you have shown your incapacity to understand basic logic, and of course true wisdom. Your attempts at attributing those concepts to the fictional Jim Jones Jr. betray the lack of a better refutation.
Fictional? Jim Jones denial? This is hardly to be believed. The hits just keep coming.
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Pride is what makes a person look like a fool. Again, one who boasts will easily be humbled. Children understand these concepts!
Would that certain Christians did as well.
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That's right, Sarpedon. You've been told what the truth is. You are accountable for your attitudes, behavior, and decisions. True adults accept this. Sorry.
Iggy the Magic Elf is the ruler of the universe and creator of all. His majesty is indescribable. You have been told what the truth is, and to deny Iggy is to submit to pride.
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