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Her father lied to her. You'll be long gone by the time your body is disposed of. The phenomenon we experience as self or consciousness is an evolving virtual landscape that is represented physically by an incredibly complex structure--a neural network. Bits of us die every second, and new bits are born. Clinical death is a very fuzzy boundary on a continuum of states from something near "fully functional" to "currently unrecoverable." Terri Schiavo died in 1990 but wasn't considered clinically dead until 2005.Stupid is as stupid does. But the story is moot--even if atheists did go around preaching that being eaten by worms and wasting our lives was inevitable it still can't be called terrorism because there is no call for a response. Atheism doesn't claim that a belief in God will bear any particular consequence. That is a necessary part of terrorism--that some form of compliance can bring relief from the threat.

By the way, I have never heard any atheist make any of the statements you attribute to them. Do you have a reference? But it matters not to the discussion because they are not threats.

DeanM

A basic understanding of math makes me a Fundie? Please...and if you want proof that I'm not a Fundie...read all my posts first.

achristianbeliever

I kind of figured the skeptic response would be "that's not the way death is". Course when Christians say, "That's not the correct view of Hell" somehow their accused of going against the Biblical record or whatever. Sounds rather hypocritical to me.

I disagree atheists constantly talk about Christians wasting their lives focusing on an imaginary afterlife when they should be focusing on the here and now. Not to mention such things as, "You give to charity because you want rewards in Heaven rather than the correct reason so you have bad motives to do things on this earth". Not to mention, "you'll have irrational beliefs" and the always fun, "Your committing child abuse if you teach your children about God" (Dawkins loved putting it that way) and "the world would be a much better place without religion". Just because the consequences are earthly rather than Heavenly doesn't change the fact that your mistaken on what athesits claim.

Now here's a person who clearly didn't pay a single attention to my post.

BruceWane

So I guess it's OK to make up stories to support our desired conclusions. eh?

(checks user name of the person who posted)

Yep, I guess it really is...........

Seriously, anybody who understands that consciousness does not survive death - AKA "atheist" - understands that you're not going to be suffering as your body rots in the ground or is cremated. There is nothing there to fear.

This "story" is absurd. If this ficticious daughter was so prone to fear of death as an atheist, I tend to think she would be equally prone to fear of hell as a christian. Probably more so, given the abundancy of hellfire and brimstone available today.

Another "convenient" story.

How about I make something up about an old woman who was told by her son that she was gonna burn in hell because she had made and retained too much money? That she failed to help other people to the best of her abilities?

Hint - when you have to resort to creative fiction to support your view of the real world, you really need to re-evaluate. Reality does not require lies, it requires honesty.

I see that a christian can make up absurd stories to comfort himself into thinking that this is true.

An atheist says "Just as you did not exist before you were born, you won't exist after you die".

Tell us, achristianbeliever, how much suffering did you endure before you were born?

So much talk of "the afterlife", eternal suffering, etc...... have you ever wondered why religions never seem to say anything about "the pre-life"?

Could it be because we already know that there is no such thing as a "pre-life", and thus religion can't use it to leverage our innate fear of the unknown?

An atheist saying "Do whatever you can now because this is all we have" is accurate.

An atheist saying "you can't take anything you do here with you" is absurd. We don't think we're going to some other place.

Just by posting things like this, it appears you can not even grasp that concept.

Judging by the "creative" writing in your post, you do have some imagination - can you imagine that it just might be that death is the end?

Even if anything you'd posted held any veracity, you'd still be saying no more than "OK, so christians are terrorists - so are you. Nah nah nah nah nah!"

Potoooooooo

JEEZE, I was eating my lunch when I saw that thank alot

Potoooooooo

Can you explain how not existing anymore is worse than existing for ever in horrible pain and torment?

achristianbeliever

OH GOSH! Man the people have a hard time grasping my point. Its a description on what happens when you die not what you'll feel when you die. Besides who are you to tell me what I should and should not consider scarey?

Exactly what I said would happen, "You think this is bad take a look at this". This line of reasoning is not really very good in my books.

I didn't think of this stuff at the top of my head. I got the first story from here:

http://www.bede.org.uk/goddelusion.htm

So tell me how I made it up?

and the second story I learned from my atheist ex-fiance. Call me a liar on that one if you desire. I obviously can't stop you but considering I showed that I didn't make up the first one maybe you should be a little more trusting about people before you condemn my second story.

I wasn't here yet.

NO I was trying to show that the atheist view is no more terrorist than the Christian. I don't think either of them are. The fact that you think otherwise tells more about you than me.

Because I fear losing my conscious more than any torment. Am I not allowed?

Valdemar

Well, that's not entirely correct. I did pay "a single attention" to your post. I guess you just didn't like my proof of:

So, I'm waiting for the proof of this place called "hell." Enlighten me.

Oh, here's an example:

Clouseau

Mmmm, a stubborn fundie.

achristianbeliever

It had nothing to do with my point and you know that. So I see no reason to push the point I mean I could give a witness statement of somebody who claims they went to Hell and came back but obviously what's the point unless your willing to accept a witness statement is evidence of Hell because if its not then you can't expect me to accept your picture as evidence otherwise your being hypocritical. And if you did and we started going back and forth about you telling me there is some type of hallucination thing and I'll come back with changed life and we'll have gone so far from the point of this thread.

Besides your actually proving my point. I stated how atheists say theirs is the truth and Christians say theirs is the truth so here is this person saying, "Oh yeah well with this picture I'm showing that my view is the real real truth". Your merely giving an example of my point.