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Old 07-19-2007, 12:37 PM   #21
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The mods expected this thread to sink gracefully onto the second page, but since it hasn't, I will give a push to the basement.

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Old 07-19-2007, 04:16 PM   #22
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Nothing to see here, folks. He's gone.


Pity. He could have been mildly amusing for a week or so.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:45 PM   #23
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:43 AM   #24
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I know that nothing in nature happens all by itself, since we can cite trillions of examples of things that have a cause on any scale, yet nothing can be show to have happened all by itself to be without a cause.
Wrong.

Firstly, there's every indication that quantum events can be genuinely random.

Secondly, even if causality was strictly true within the universe it would tell us nothing about whether or not it holds with regard to the origin of the universe.

Thirdly, the "there must be a cause; that cause is a sky wizard who has strong opinions about your sex life" argument has never been convincing.
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Old 07-20-2007, 01:10 PM   #25
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How's that gridfire? Toasty?

I can't hear you. Oh wait... :devil1:
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:20 PM   #26
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That's all I need to know. Wait, how does sin lead to death?
This is best shown by an example. If you eat too much you get fat and fat people don't live as long. I am sure you can think of lots of examples.
So these kids http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/africa/4139174.stm will out live my 86 year old 100 lbs over the weight limit, aunt Bev. A just god looking past a just cause once again.
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The one who was being prophesied by the prophets to come has come and shall come again!
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