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It is quite logical that if someone has misjudged some information about any matter that their supposed deductions using the misjudged information will be deemed illogical by those who have not misjudged that very data. Jesus of the NT was described as the Child of a Ghost but some may have misjudged that information and are involved in false dichotomies claiming that HJ was from Nazareth, was baptized by John and was crucified when it was a Ghost that did those things. |
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For example aa5874 is here in the OP arguing that the HJ Theory is a Logical Fallacy. The argument is being driven by the utterly misjudged reliability of the actual evidence being tendered for the THEORY of the HJ. aa5874 has pointed out many times that the HJ theorists are actually presenting evidence for a mythical jesus, who like the Phantom, was a Ghost who walked up and down the new testament before ascending through the clouds to the God-Ship in geocentric orbit above Judaea. None of this evidence, resurrection, walking the plank, bending steel in his bare hands, changing the course of mighty rivers are HISTORICAL FACTS. They are MYTHICAL FACTS. The HJers have seriously misjudged MYTHICAL sources as HISTORICAL SOURCES, which is an error. However when such an error is then incorporated into a theory of ancient history, is it an error in logic - and in any other words, a logical fallacy. The HJ theory is not logical, because of (1) its claims, and (2) the evidence being presented (and missing). The HJ Theory never was logical. It was not implemented with logic but with a great deal of authority. Furthermore it has never ever been presented with any LOGIC, but has always been presented by this (delegated church-based) AUTHORITY. The HJ Theory an illogical historical fable, and a monstrous non historical tale, perpetuated by a seriously misguided authority in the field of ancient history. |
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I beg your pardon? Are you serious? You have made a most fundamental logical error. You may be discussing logic, but I am discussing ancient history, its evidence, methodologies, hypotheses and theories. Read the OP carefully. And feel free to start another thread in the Philosophy forum.
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1. In the NT, Jesus was described as the Child of a Holy Ghost who lived in Nazareth, was baptized by John and crucified under Pilate. 2. The NT is an ADMITTED unreliable historical source. 3. Logical deductions require reliable data. 4. Jesus of the NT was NOT described as an ordinary man. 5. The claim by HJers that Jesus of the NT was an ordinary man is quite illogical using the EXTANT ADMITTED UNRELIABLE evidence. 6. It is ILLOGICAL to use ADMITTED UNRELIABLE data to make logical deductions. |
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