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pbaylis · 03-17-2005, 07:04 AM

http://www.near-death.com/storm.html

RGD · 03-17-2005, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pbaylis

http://www.near-death.com/storm.html

Ummm... So what? Is there an argument here?

braces_for_impact · 03-17-2005, 07:14 AM

Hell is declined

Columbus · 03-17-2005, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pbaylis

http://www.near-death.com/storm.html

How exciting. Yet more powerful evidence that must be taken on somebody's word. I wonder how much money his book generates.

Tom

Sven · 03-17-2005, 07:28 AM

Hey, pbaylis is again back after some months with more preaching!

Regarding the link:

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Before his near-death experience, Rev. Howard Storm, a Professor of Art at Northern Kentucky University, was not a very pleasant man. He was an avowed atheist and was hostile to every form of religion and those who practiced it. He often would use rage to control everyone around him and he didn’t find joy in anything. Anything that wasn’t seen, touched, or felt, he had no faith in. He knew with certainty that the material world was the full extent of everything that was. He considered all belief systems associated with religion to be fantasies for people to deceive themselves with. Beyond what science said, there was nothing else.

If I've ever seen a strawman of an atheist, that's indeed one!

Regarding his NDE: When will pbaylis ever get that testimonials means close to nothing? For me to believe in a miracle/a NDE/etc., I at least have to experience it myself.

Further comments:
This guy hears a voice "Pray to God." - and instead of asking "To which god?", he simply starts praying to the god he knows, the Christian one.
Who then "appears". Suprise, surprise. As if no psychologists could explain this.

Quote from "A Rescue From Hell By Jesus Christ":
"he knew everything about me and I was being unconditionally loved and accepted"
There you have it. No need for believing in god, no need for good works - Jesus loves you anyway.

And then we have:
"[Webmaster note: Howard believes his friend was Jesus.]"
Interesting. Based on what?

There you have it: Another instance of jumping to conclusions.

Lemur · 03-17-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by website

"The best religion is the religion that brings you closest to God." - Rev. Howard Storm

Define "religion".
What does it mean to "bring me close to God".
Why would I want to be close to God, whatever or whoever that is?
Define "God".

someotherguy · 03-17-2005, 11:29 AM

This thread is lacking in the serious content department. Off to ~E~.

someotherguy
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Queen of Swords · 03-17-2005, 08:12 PM

Before his near-death experience, Rev. Howard Storm, a Professor of Art at Northern Kentucky University, was not a very pleasant man.

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He was an avowed atheist and was hostile to every form of religion and those who practiced it.

Small children : Twick or tweat!
Howard : Is that a religion? Is that your religion? Tell me! <grabs the nearest child> Are you religious?
Child : N-n-no, my parents are W-wiccan--
Howard : That's religious! Prepare to die, scum!

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He often would use rage to control everyone around him

Styling himself the Puppetmaster, he held Gotham City in a reign of terror until Batman made him pay for his heinous crimes.

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and he didn’t find joy in anything.

Not even sex? Well, maybe he just hadn't found the right man yet.

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Anything that wasn’t seen, touched, or felt, he had no faith in.

Making him a True Christian, therefore, would involve removing his eyes and skin. That way, he couldn't see or touch.

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He knew with certainty that the material world was the full extent of everything that was.

Just as christians know with certainty that the immaterial world exists, and is the bestest world besides.

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He considered all belief systems associated with religion to be fantasies for people to deceive themselves with.

The poor deluded nut. He should have known that every belief system except True Christianity is a fantasy for people to deceive themselves with - or a fantasy which satan feeds them, or a fantasy which god allows satan to feed them.

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Beyond what science said, there was nothing else.

Science, the great evil which cut poor Howard off from the wonders of the One Real Religion. If only he had lived in a cave and made fire with two sticks, he would have been like John the Baptist or some other hermitty person.

Weltall · 03-17-2005, 10:18 PM

QoS is back with her Nutwatch style again. Praise! :notworthy

Evil Sentient Duck · 03-18-2005, 04:45 AM

Oh, I read this guy's story before I became an Atheist. Why not post the NDE from that other preacher (E.D. Forgets preacher's name: Ducks have small heads and mine is packed with Evil plans for world conquest) who was taken to hell and then to heaven and was also told, by JeZeus, that he would not die before the rapture of the church. The man died in the Nineties.

It's all in the random firing synapses of a dieing mind, this NDE stuff.

Quack!
E.D.

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Evil Sentient Duck Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 85	Oh, I read this guy's story before I became an Atheist. Why not post the NDE from that other preacher (E.D. Forgets preacher's name: Ducks have small heads and mine is packed with Evil plans for world conquest) who was taken to hell and then to heaven and was also told, by JeZeus, that he would not die before the rapture of the church. The man died in the Nineties. It's all in the random firing synapses of a dieing mind, this NDE stuff. Quack! E.D.

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