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Ray Moscow · 09-05-2007, 02:49 AM

My tuppence: The Channel 4 "Bible" programmes that I've seen seem fairly "pro Christian" to me.

Antipope Innocent II · 09-05-2007, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger Pearse

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For US viewers, I disagree with absolutely everything Roger says here.

Not only is Channel 4 far from politically correct - their very mandate says that they should push the boundaries and produce edgy television.

Their mandate does say this; the code-words for PC.

I admit that I never expected that anyone would simply deny the PC nature of C4, but I suppose it means only that Mr. Anderson is PC himself.

Ummm, Roger - is this the same Channel 4 that produced The Great Global Warming Swindle? I can see how that fits with Dean's "edgy television" explanation of C4's programming, but it doesn't exactly fit with your "PC" explanation. I can't think of a documentary that could be less "PC" at the moment.

Having spent some time in the UK recently and (due to living in a hotel room for over a month) watching way too much British TV, I'd have to agree more with Dean than with you. C4 tries hard to push everyone and anyone's buttons.

And broadcasts some crap simply because it's controversial as a result. I can't comment on the programme mentioned above, but The Great Global Warming Swindle was error-laden garbage of the first order.

But "edgy".

PaulK · 09-05-2007, 03:04 AM

Exactly. "Edgy" is almost the opposite of PC. PC is about going out of the way to avoid giving offence. "Edgy" is about looking at controversial issues and not worrying about giving offence.

Equally Beckford is quite definitely a Christian in the usual sense of the word, even if he doesn't pass Roger's doctrinal filter. See http://robertbeckford.co.uk/

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As part of the Caribbean diaspora in Britain, my theological work cannot be removed from the concrete world in which I live. Faith without engagement with the socio-political world is "faith without works."

Dean Anderson · 09-05-2007, 03:06 AM

I'm not going to let Roger bait me and drag me into a pointless argument.

Here is Beckford's website. Judge for yourselves whether this is the website of a Christian or someone out to "rubbish" Christianity...

chrisrkline · 09-05-2007, 05:20 AM

For a more radical, but very well done introduction to the NT, I think Robert Price's Pre-Nicene New Testament (or via: amazon.co.uk) is a good choice. It contains all 27 books of the canonical NT plus 27 other books that missed the cut.

the Radio Star · 09-05-2007, 01:51 PM

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Straight Dope doesn't look like a reliable source whatsover. It looks like another bitch about everything site.

What do you base this on?

I looked at the site.

Toto · 09-05-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the Radio Star

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Originally Posted by Toto

What do you base this [negative opinion of the reliability of Straight Dope] on?

I looked at the site.

Um, other people have looked at the site and concluded that its has its facts straight on this issue at least.

the Radio Star · 09-05-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

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I looked at the site.

Um, other people have looked at the site and concluded that its has its facts straight on this issue at least.

I'll read it, but I'm trusting the reviews here that the information is accurate over the site itself.

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09-05-2007, 02:49 AM	#21
Ray Moscow Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 1,255	My tuppence: The Channel 4 "Bible" programmes that I've seen seem fairly "pro Christian" to me.

09-05-2007, 03:06 AM	#24
Dean Anderson Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 6,947	I'm not going to let Roger bait me and drag me into a pointless argument. Here is Beckford's website. Judge for yourselves whether this is the website of a Christian or someone out to "rubbish" Christianity...

09-05-2007, 05:20 AM	#25
chrisrkline Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 68	For a more radical, but very well done introduction to the NT, I think Robert Price's Pre-Nicene New Testament (or via: amazon.co.uk) is a good choice. It contains all 27 books of the canonical NT plus 27 other books that missed the cut.

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