wala

Which God do you worship? the Son or the Father or the Holy Spirit?

"All the Catholic interpreters of the divine books of the Old and New
Testaments whom I have been able to read, who wrote before me about the
Trinity, which is God, intended to teach in accordance with the
Scriptures that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are of one
and the same substance constituting a divine unity with an inseparable
equality; and therefore there are not three gods but one God, although
the Father begot the Son, and therefore He that is the Father is not
the Son; and the Son is begotten by the Father, and therefore He that
is the Son is not the Father; and the Holy Spirit is neither the Father
nor the Son, but only the Spirit of the Father and of the Son, Himself,
too, co-equal to the Father and to the Son, and belonging to the unity
of the Trinity. [1, 4:7]"


How can the Father be God, the Son be God, and the Holy Ghost be God
and there be only one God?


How can the three be distinct yet not be separate? How can Jesus be on
the right hand of God if he is part of God? How can Jesus ascend to his
Father if he is part of the Father?


I am father, son, Brother, husband, uncle, etc to different people.
Those are mere titles.


What you are telling me to believe is that God is both Father and Son
to the Same People. It does not fly. It is illogical. Further, there
are instances when both the Father and the Son are shown at the same
time such as.





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One God, father-son-ghost?


Holy Trinity "Me, Myself, and I"


Triune god: "Buy one god, get two free"

jim_w

No. They're not the same person, but they are of the same substance. "Co-equal in majesty", "Co-eternal", that sort of thing. Cool, eh?

edit: Is that really a seventeen-line .sig, or is it supposed to be part of the post?

Neutral

I like the Holy Spirit, he is in the business of making young women pregnant,i wish I were him.

flintknapper

The Holy Spirit is the most powerful of the three mythological beings. The Bible says that you can sin against God and be forgiven, but sinning against the Holy Spirit can't be forgiven. That's a kick-ass ghost, who must also be a shape shifter as the thing is always pictured as a little white dove or a little flame above peoples heads.:huh:

Overkill

I beg to differ.
The other gods/parts of the One True God(tm) did some pretty mind blowing things. Made the world, did mind blowing miracles like raising the dead and died for the salvation of tens of billions if not hundreds of billions of people. The Holy Spirit, well, he whispers something into your spiritual ear and you are free to disbelieve or believe that little something. And on the subject of shapeshifting Jesus transfigured and disguised himself from believers(Road to Emmeaus I think) and God frequently morphed into things like pillars of fire and smoke, strong winds, burning bushes etc. so shapeshifting really ain't that cool.

fromdownunder

Overkill:


Genesis 1 refers to Elohim, or "the Gods" as a plural. Therefore, as I understand it and according to many Christians who believe in the Trinity, the creation was performed by the Trio.

There are many other verses where God refers to himself as "we".

Norm

Soul Invictus

What do you mean of the same substance? I was birthed by my mother, so I understand what being "of the same substance" would mean in this instance.

Do you believe that the son, father, and holy spirit are distinctly several (separate) entities?

jim_w

Well, lets not get our terms confused: they're distinct persons, that's for sure. Serarate entities? Depends exactly what you mean, natch. To my naive definition of an "entity", yes they're separate.

Godless Dave

Of course that has nothing to do with Judaism's polytheistic roots.

Soul Invictus

I was operating under the vein that a person is an entity, but the "person" term should suffice.

Do you believe God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit to be 3 separate and different persons that possess certain identifiable qualities/attributes that distinguish God (the Father), Jesus (the Son) and the Holy Spirit (it?) from each other and other persons?