deadman_932

Right, so that doesn't count either...it didn't even cover all of mesopotamia

JayW

Didn't anyone ever tell you that Surrupah and Kish were in Mesopotamia? What timeline did I mention?

deadman_932

None of the "local" floods cover all the region all at the same time, period. Besides, there is still the issue of what the Bible claims as events that a local flood simply doesn't agree with, either.

deadman_932

Oh, so now it's ANY FLOOD at ANY time is good enough to be the Bible flood, and that makes the Bible flood event all true? Okay, the Covenant happens after the flood...and a local flood still makes God in the Bible out to be a liar.

deadman_932

Does the Bible flood mean all wicked men on the Earth were to be killed? Yes or no? If you claim a local flood, then the Bible is false in that event.

Similarly, the claim that all other creatures under all the heavens were to be killed is false.

Similarly, the Covenant becomes false.

And you can't even find a damn single flood that covers Mesopotamia

Ezkerraldean

if that's true then yes, it's plausible. plausible that a large flood occurred in that region. where geographically is this silt? because it certainly doesn't cover the entire world.

do you believe in a global flood? and a 6000-year-old earth?

Lugubert

Boring, but back to the bank analogy.

If I make a $5 deposit, and then make the exaggerated claim that I made a $5000 one, which bank would allow me to withdraw $5000? I think they would tell me that the $5000 deposit event was false.

Keith&Co.

I think that if you want to claim that every myth has a basis in reality somewhere, few here would disagree with you. Humans have been flooded out a number of times, some civilizations have incorporated that into their myths. Maybe there was even a hugely destructive flood that directly inspired the one in Genesis.

But the BIBLICAL event reports a world-wide flood. Water up over the mountains, all life destroyed.

There was no world-wide flood.

The BIBLICAL event must be discounted.

JEST2ASK

Hello Robert,

Thank You for the information ... I am very much not a scholar but you seem to indicate that the knowledge regarding the link to NOAH and the Egyptians as being supported by the Bible. I am intrigued by the idea (IMO implied) that the Egyptian gods were based on real rulers etc, could you possibly detail this further.

I know this is a bit off the main topic somewhat so perhaps a new thread or a PM is in order.

Jack the Bodiless

OK, so "Noah's Flood" was a local flood, an actual event (supposedly) that was exaggerated.

And the Exodus was a few people leaving Egypt.

...So what was the Genesis creation story? If that's "the whole history of the Universe, and the Earth, and the evolution of life and humanity, from 13.7 billion years BC to about 4000 BC", it seems pretty thoroughly disconnected from what really happened.

And how about the Tower of Babel story? What was that all about? Some Caananite builder who developed Alzheimer's Disease?

And what about the failed prophecies? The whole point of those is their specificity: not just that they happen to mention a specific city or whatever. The prophesied destruction of a city is the event itself, not just the detail of the event: when the city fails to be destroyed, the event fails.