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Scorpion · 08-18-2004, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Fletcher

The following statement setting out similarities between Babylonia and Finland appears in The Encyclopedia Britannica

...I'm not convinced if they can't put the tower of Babel on the Finnish map :Cheeky:

-S-

Capybara · 08-18-2004, 11:08 PM

And every language uses a variation of the word "gin and tonic" to describe some kind of beverage.

Chris Weimer · 08-19-2004, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpetrich

Latin: me-, unus, duo, tres, decem, nomen, sol, stella

Just wanted to point out unus used to be oinus, from oinos. lpetrich, are you a linguist? If so, what language are you most affluent in?

Lafcadio · 08-19-2004, 05:26 AM

Quote:

"The country was divided into two halves, the Sumir (Sungir or Shinar) in the north west and the Accad in the south east, corresponding most remarkably to the Suomi and Akkara-k into which the Finnish race believed itself to have been separated in its first mountain home. Like Suomi, Sumir signified "The People of the Rivers" and, just as Finnic tradition makes Kemi a district of the Suomi, so Came was another name of the Babylonian Sumir. The Accadai or Accad were the "Highlanders", who had descended from the mountainous region of Elam and it was to them that the Assyrians ascribed the origin of Chaldean civilization."

Ouch!
- Sumer was in south, Akkad in north
- Sumer is an exonim, I'm not sure of its meaning, anyway it's the east-semitic (i.e. akkadian) nomination (finish must've speak semitic in their past

)
- there's hardly a babylonian Sumer, take account that what we call babylonian are mostly west-semites (amorites, chaldeeans) - they inherited this nomination from ex-akkadian empires
- akkadians were semites as I said, and their origin is unknown. Elam however was inhabited by a different civilization and elamite was a different language, I think rather caucasian-like
- assyrians are practically akkadians
- oh, and the akkadian "sumer" was in fact "shumer"

Chris Weimer · 08-19-2004, 05:58 AM

[quote=cweb255]All might I add being religious in nature. It is obvious that a Christian would adopt words from the parent religion. As for alphabet and Europe, alphabet was distinctly Phoenician, and the names of the letters actually originated there. Europe has a clear origin, as do all words in ope (myoptic, hyperopia, cyclops) comes from the Greek word ops "eye". The first word is Eurys "flat, broad, long". "Erev" doesn't really hold up well since the setting sun for Israel would have been the Mediterranian, and then North Africa.[/cweb255]Alas, I might be wrong here. Europe has the first base as Eurus, the God of the East Wind. This might correspond somewhat to erev, but which came first...? Considering *east is etymologically separated from euru/ys, I'd say that it is a native proto-word that just didn't change, much like pneu- in Greek and pniw- in Klamath.

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08-18-2004, 11:08 PM	#12
Capybara Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 238	And every language uses a variation of the word "gin and tonic" to describe some kind of beverage.

08-19-2004, 05:58 AM	#15
Chris Weimer Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: none Posts: 9,879	[quote=cweb255]All might I add being religious in nature. It is obvious that a Christian would adopt words from the parent religion. As for alphabet and Europe, alphabet was distinctly Phoenician, and the names of the letters actually originated there. Europe has a clear origin, as do all words in ope (myoptic, hyperopia, cyclops) comes from the Greek word ops "eye". The first word is Eurys "flat, broad, long". "Erev" doesn't really hold up well since the setting sun for Israel would have been the Mediterranian, and then North Africa.[/cweb255]Alas, I might be wrong here. Europe has the first base as Eurus, the God of the East Wind. This might correspond somewhat to erev, but which came first...? Considering *east is etymologically separated from euru/ys, I'd say that it is a native proto-word that just didn't change, much like pneu- in Greek and pniw- in Klamath.

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