aupmanyav

Because they are foolish and impressionable.

candyfloss

People get "into" scientology for the same reasons they get into most any cult--it promises a miracle cure for any and all of life's problems. But if you actually read the book, you will find that it is really a drawn out commercial for scientology--directing you to the nearest chapter that you can pay money to and get hooked up to an e-meter and get cured. The book is window dressing and doesn't solve any problems, it mostly just lists problems that scientology claims can be solved by scientology and directs you to someone who can "help (read-"take your money")."

aupmanyav

Like many yoga gurus with whom you would better keep clear.

FatherMithras

The problem with Dianetics is that it's fraudulent, not based on scientific data or experimentation and has been rebuked thoroughly by doctors and psychologists. You make it sound like we should accept that a non-expert in any of the fields he referred to deeply understand psychology and medicine better than all experts.

From wiki, with references

# ↑ Lee, John A. Sectarian Healers and Hypnotherapy, 1970, Ontario (Excerpt)
# ↑ Fischer, Harvey Jay. "Dianetic therapy: an experimental evaluation. A statistical analysis of the effect of dianetic therapy as measured by group tests of intelligence, mathematics and personality." Abstract of Ph.D. thesis, 1953, New York University (Excerpt)
# ↑ Fox, J.; Davis, A.E.; Lebovits, B. "An experimental investigation of Hubbard's engram hypothesis (dianetics)". Psychological Newsletter, New York University. 10 1959, 131-134

I mean, seriously. A guy claims he found a part of the mind responsible for all our problems? And he isn't even slightly qualified? Please. Pathetic.

whichphilosophy

The reseach data is being compiled in the Research and Discovery Volumes. This will take several volumes about 2.5 inches thick. It will take a few years for this. A few are printed and can be purchased at a handsome price.

Dianetics is not medicine, and what you may find amazing is quite a few Scientologists become doctors. I have not met any Scientologists who practice Chinese Medicine (my own other brand of snake oil).

There were reasons why the research was not printed before the procedures applied, because the research led to the workable methodology of the subject. (based on one's own view).

One one of the threads one person produced a piece of research which Hubbard had done but did not understand it and thus mis-evaluated what he was trying to do.

I have seen other articles which tried to discredit it, but they did not understand the scope and purpose of the procedures of Dianetics and thus whether they attained good or bad results would not prove the subject worked or not.

Psychology, psychiatry and medicine have not been able to resolve problems of the human mind. There are some good people in these fields.

I am not going to dispute whether you are right or wrong but persons like myself perhaps sought to look beyond conventional thinking in that there are solutions to our problems out there.

whichphilosophy

Apologies to all for the three replies as my server was playing up.

whichphilosophy

Err as I mentioned the book is a snapshot of the subject. The 32 volume ++ Research and Discoveries (2.5 in thick) typed and hand written will take years to produce. To conclude something in the way you suggest would be as asinine as you infer but this is not the case.

whichphilosophy

Interesting because some Atheists have became Scientologists.

whichphilosophy

This is an old one.

Actually as a former member but as I mentioned returning to Scn, my personal experience with quite a few who became freezoners is that they were rather fanatical about the whole thing and in many cases were expelled for altering the processes and procedures of Scn and Dianetics. This is because altering a precise mode of application makes it something else.

I am not sure how it can be said trying to salvage what is good about it since I haven't seen anyone who can even define it. Once defined and understood then an assessment can be made as to what is good or bad.

Do you recall the axioms where the thread hardly moved at all and was stuck at number 1 and 2. You almost got these right.

The subject can be difficult at times but eventually the points being read fall into place.

whichphilosophy

Actually the book is set of procedures to be used and applied. I'm sure there are lots of colourful ads in there, and more than there were some time ago.

My son and daugher in law benefitted greatly from these by reading and applying a few chapters on a basic course. Both were drop outs but after this course enrolled to go to school in June and I will later help with college fees ce they decide what career they want to do.

My wife (has never done Scn and is not a Scn) was amazed because after doing this course and a couple of courses on how to study their apathy about their own abilities and unwillingness to study were reversed.

It cost them nothing (because I paid of course).

However, one should not part with any money unless they are sure about something and as a subject it may not suit all people. A big mistake would be for a person to do this subject if they are unwilling but only to please a relative. This will only lead to problems later on with such things as dissatisfaction and sometimes refunds, since they should not have been allowed to pay for courses in the first place.