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Yep. Justin called Martyr also mentions the Quirinius census with regard to Jesus three times in his (First) Apology 34, 46 and 78. I guess that it is only modern apologists who have noticed the correct reading.


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Richbee

So what?

Yawn.

Really? Are you certain of this date? Prove it?

Fascinating, you have more proof of when the census began and was completed?

All Historians are eager for the news! Please let us know when you're ready to publish these facts!

Are you sure about this "fact"?

Is this what Luke wrote, let alone claimed?

You have demonstrated anything but a CLEAR appreciation of what facts are known and well established, Vs, those facts that remain in question. Pop Quiz: What year was Jesus born? When was Quirinius apponted Gov’ of Syria? How long was he the Gov’, and over what territories – please specify the geography and the years covered?

Quite possibly you need to go dig up the facts, quite literally and return when you have something substantive on this topic.

In conclusion, you were working on the following questions or reasonable questions and probable realities:

F.F. Bruce writes:

The reference in Luke 2:2 to Quirinius as governor of Syria at the time of the birth of Christ (before the death of Herod the Great in 4 BC) has frequently been thought to be an error, because Quirinius is known to have become imperial legate of Syria in AD 6, and to have supervised in that year the enrollment mentioned in Acts 5:37, which provoked the insurrection led by Judas of Galilee. But it is now widely admitted that an earlier enrollment, as described in Luke 2:1 ff.,

(a) may have taken place in the reign of Herod the Great,

(b) may have involved the return of everyone to his family home,

(c) may have formed part of an Empire wide census, and ...

(d) may have been held during a previous governorship of Quirinius over Syria.

Are the New Testament Documents Reliable? By F.F. Bruce

So why do Skeptics get their underwear tied up in knots challenging the greatest ancient Historian Master Luke?

Do Skeptics have any real evidence to discredit Luke?

Richbee

So, Justin Martyr quotes the Gospel of Luke? In what year!

Good show ole boyo, I knew that the ancient Church Fathers all had copies of the New International Version of the Gospels - no less!?

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You haven't indicated that you have figured them out. You seem to be confused about Rome's relationship with Judea prior to 6 CE, thinking that they would interfere with a friendly client kingdom, which collected its own taxes. The taxation census of Quirinius is strictly related to the change in status of Judea from a client kingdom to a Roman province and therefore directly taxable by Rome. HTH.


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Richbee

Take your nonsense elsewhere. May I suggest, a thead named: "Who was the real Captain Kanagroo?"

(Hint: He was a Dartmouth Grad')

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Wrong conclusions, sonny. The text was transparent to Justin. It's just modern people who don't like the text who want to change it.


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Richbee

Toto,

Please try to keep away the droids, the dregs and the ankle bitters. (Please appreciate that I never used the word: "Troll" in this post.)

Richbee

Ahem.

Do you deny that Rome may have reason to count the people, inorder to calculate a fair sum of taxation? Do you underestimate their greed or their ability to count?

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You shouldn't plead ignorance of Roman administration in order to justify a comment on Rome's administrative practices.


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Diogenes the Cynic

What part of "Judea wasn't a province" do you not understand?