mindaika

Then why bother creating science when it just contradicts many of the bible's claims?


Is there a need to proceed? I believe in Genesis, you don't. There is no where to proceed to. So we'll just have to agree to disagree. You can think i'm stupid or uneducated all you want, if that makes you feel superior. I trust God, you trust science.

Belief in something impossible does not make someone stupid or uneducated. At some point science has to take a 'leap of faith' as well, the difference is, once that leap has been taken, there is a logical progression of events for science, whereas for creation, there is not.



You're right, omnipotent doesn't mean able to do the impossible. But science can't actually prove for a fact, that God couldn't have created the present world and flood. 200 years ago, traveling to the moon would have been considered mythical or fantasy. You don't know for a fact that new evidence won't reveal itself and show the error of your ways. Scientists have been rejecting the claims in the Bible for hundreds of years, but every new archaeological discovery related to it, just proves its truth. [/QUOTE]

Perhaps you could enlighten us to these new archaeological discoveries that have proven, or for that matter, even supported, the bible.

mindaika

The epitome of fulfillment, according to the bible, being spending all that time worshipping God.

Personally, I find sitting in church for 1 hour a week to be incredibly boring. I can't imagine spending all of eternity doing even that...

Thor Q. Mada

As a Naval Architect I can safely say that the material properties of wood are such that an Ark of the size as described in the bible is mechanicaly impossible. And this not just by a small factor.
This size limitation was with us until we started building iron and later steel vessels.
OK, maybe god put a "force field" around it to keep it together, but why then coat it inside out with tar. He could have kept the water out as well by just wanting.
All incredible beautiful stories for around a campfire with primitive people. But not defendable by any means in todays world except when using the rather dumb stop word faith.
If enginering would work like that, may I respectfully suggest you don't take a plane or a boat anymore.

mindaika

Today, I made a pizza. That proves that all other pizzas are just copies of mine. The fact that many cultures have pizza proves that I am a phenomenal salesman.

Sorry Magus, but you seem to have a slight continuity problem there...

mindaika

Another continuity problem! If the bible was inspired by God but recorded by man, then there are two possibilities:

1. God didn't know what the highest mountain was
2. It was a recording error my the people who wrote it down (a pretty big one, and that would most likely mean there are others)

Magus55

why does it only mean those two possibilities?

mindaika

What other possibilites are there? I guess God could have lied about what the tallest mountain was, or perhaps Ararat WAS the tallest mountain at the time, but was sqaushed down some 12,000 ft by the flood...

Magus55

Huh? Oh, let me guess, you are assuming Everest has always been the highest mountain, at ~28,000 feet high?

mindaika

Do you mean to imply that Everest, as well as about 40 other mountains, have grown over 1000 feet in the last ~4000 years?

Magus55

Yup, and don't give me the crap about it being impossible. A volcano in Mexico grew from flat ground to 1000 feet in a couple weeks.