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Visionary7

<quality post to both mr.Chapka and Dissident>

With God all things are possible.


I will teach you about the power of God;
the ways of the Almighty I will
not conceal.


If you are not willing to listen to God, why should one be willing to listen me? What makes you so turned off to Jesus?


Where does wisdom come from?
Where does understanding dwell?
the sea says 'it is not in me'
the deep says 'it is not with me'.

can you intrepret this verse and show me what it means?

I have a confidence because I been through a spiritual hell because of the divinity of Christ. I felt I went an intense spirtual change because of my rejection when trying to speak His word. The Lord tore me apart and knit my spirit back to together. He has trained my fingers for war, the word as my breastplate and salvation as my helmet. The Lord can strike me dead one moment and put me in astral-like projectional trances that I can't even explain myself.

If you do not know God or wish to know YVWH, then my words are going to be to you as explaining what a flower in a field looks like to a blind man. God wears a divine shroud, one must really seek him and drop his life and let his seed fall to the ground and die before God even shows you the tiniest fraction of spiritual knowledge to reveal himself.

What God tears down cannot be rebuilt, what God builds cannot rebuilt again. The capstone the builders rejected is Christ. Doctrinally and expositorially.


I went to the library and got a thick set of high-education and science books, what did they mean to me and what did I learn from them?

simple facts of God-given knowledge, nothing more and nothing less..What can I learned from the bible is simple fact that lets you know everything. Christ is the source of all wisdom, God was pleased and chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise. The world through it's wisdom, did not know him. Wisdom she was with God in the beginning, in the beginning the word was God and the word was with God. To substantiate my point, what are we reading as we communicate back and forth together in the english alphabet?

Man toils and sweats under the sun, only strive to hand what he has worked for under the sun to another, So man cannot comprehened it's worth, that's why the world does not know God. Even I myself, as a hard core believer can even understand the mysteries of my Master's business, what I have been learning by spirit from my Teacher, who knows all things: is to not be conceited with the abilities He has given me. I can do nothing without the Son who died for me, the Son dwells in the Father, I only tell you what I hear, apart from the Son who died for me, I can do nothing with the Father also. Whose word dwells in me.

Do not call anyone Rabbi, for you only have one master, Do not call anyone Teacher, for only you have one Teacher, who is the Christ


Who has the wisdom to answer this? How can I speak in such a manner if I did not have the gift of the Holy Spirit, though the world did not know him?

Visionary7

I don't need the support of opinions in number. My support is the Most High. I started by myself, I will go to my grave with peace and John 3:16 written the on the tombstone. Death means nothing to me, If Christ does not come before my final hour, I will have a smile on my face when the ressurection happens. My knees are to drop and confess with my mouth that Jesus is the Christ, you are the Son of God. Teach me your servant to do good.

I came to your turf, but not to create strife however my use of God's word causes it in the hearts of most posters. Wheter it be over the course of a year or instant reproach. I bear battle scars, I'm still plowing my part for service to the kingdom of God.

The Lord is with me like a mighty warrior.

Technically, If I can tell you God threw me in the pit through the cynicisms of Anti-God skeptics, does this not mean I was pulled back out and refined as fire?

chapka

I wish I could say the same. If mine was a quality post, why did you not respond to a single one of my arguments?

If you want to preach, go to Washington Square Park. If you want to discuss, you need to discuss--that means two-way discussion.

It's pretty straightforward. In context, I'd assume it means that the author thinks that his or her tribe's god is the source of human consciousness, which he or she can't imagine arising on its own without divine intervention. So what?

DinoStoned

Even though the post was directed at chapka and Dissident, I just feel like making some comments.

And you can claim, with one hundred percent confidence, that this does not occur in other religions?

Handing over what you have worked hard for to others does not mean that you do not comprehend its worth. In fact, unless you are a slave (and even then, you are provided food and shelter), you normally get something in return for your hard work and products. By handing over something to others, you recognize its worth to them, and they, in turn, will hand over something that is worthwhile to you.

We puny humans have a name for this activity. We call it trade. There are instances of it happening in the Bible. Look it up.

So you're implying that we should keep all the fruits of labour to ourselves? Would that not go against the teachings of Christ? I think he told us to share our possessions with the poor, or something like that.

You are just making unsubstantiated claims, which everyone can do. Holy spirits do not factor into the equation. For example :

Who can comprehend and accept the existence of the Buddha to save us from suffering, when they close themselves to his teachings? If I were not infused with the spirit of the Noble Path, I would not be able to say these gems of wisdom.
Even I, an embodiment of the panna, samadhi and sila, do not dare to claim full understanding of Nirvana and dharma, and thus no one should question the Buddha's teachings, much less some atheistic infidels.

Different religion, same claims (no offense to Buddhism, but this is just a personal parody). Wisdom, holiness; none of these are required to speak in such a manner.

Legion

CF is www.christianforums.com; www.crossandflame.com is abbreviated "C+F"

How is a thread asking people if they believe in the resurrection of the dead supposed to help anyone?

In that thread, not a single cohesive or convincing argument that atheism is unreasonable was presented. Even the OP abandoned it after having his arguments soundly defeated and being made to look like an idiot for persisting in them in the first place.

As a side note, C+F is an interfaith board, not solely or specifically Christian.

Visionary7

I basically respect every religion, and do not discriminate or look down on other humans in general regardless of their ethnical postions or beliefs.

I am no better than you and you no better than me according to scripture.

Visionary7

Why does atheism have to present an argument to me?

simple question I desire to know the answer to.

As for the interfaith comment, you were right about that. I had problems with the board when I first started posting there because it didn't seem right to me.

Some chaff gets mixed in with the wheat,they both grow together. An example I can make is that if the chaff begins take away the wheat, nothing good is left.

What does straw have to do with grain? is somewhere in the book of Jeremiah. This could be an interprated of why the problem we speak of presents itself. Before one goes of on a rant about inchorence, incohesiveness, or my not making any sense; that is your fault.

Read a little harder and closer at what I'm saying.

That's why must practice sowing the Word to maintain the wheat.

If a good tree relies on the Word of God, the arguments presented against him are the vines that TRY to grow up around the tree and choke it, causing it to die.

But God simply will not allow a tree that sows the Word of God die from the thorns,thistles,and vines surrounding it...

Sing about a fruitful vineyard,
I, the Lord watch over it.
I water it night and day so that no one may harm it.

Do you see how I am able to persist even when in the face of adversity?

again,

Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar?

Ye cannot refute God's wisdom, I can only try and speak about it. Ye ask but ye recieve not because ye ask amiss.

EverLastingGodStopper

Again, in colleges and universities. Why do you keep asking this? Go to a college or university to find wise men (and women) and scholars.

Visionary7

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I do not deny the possibilities or blaspheme other religions.


Still, the priniciple is biblical and mysterious.. The bottom line of Ecclesiastes is that Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. The sun continues rejoice and runs it's course everyday. My perspective with God has been getting to the point where it feels like the sun has rotated many days in matter of a second, yet I have gained nothing but God and what is given or taken from me.

My answer to that?

Gen. 3.17
Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat of it
all of the days of your life.

It will produce thorns and thistles for
you,
and you will eat the plants of the
field.
by the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until your return to the ground
since from it you were taken
dust you are dust you will return.

Can I ask some questions? When we die, where are our bodies placed?

Where do our vegetables and foods come from?


No. If one works and obeys God diligently enough the fruits of your labor are often to be picked off your 'tree' for the benefit of others. I believe God has a character of being a giver...IMO the biggest gift I have ever recieved is Jesus.

One grows and learns to appreciate Jesus when time is spent with an open mind and develops a real relationship..

Which an atheist here calls my 'imaginary friend'...

so, hmm.

Basic teaching is to give to the poor and do good and have faith in God and you will be blessed by your Father in heaven. When you give do not give on the squares to be seen by other men, when your Father sees what is done in secret, you will be rewarded.



The exact phrase has been quoted by thousands of skeptics and athiests.

Yes it does, The holy spirit is required for me to maintain my strengthening and arguments for God. If the holy spirit did not exist I would not be talking about God. There not even be a reason for atheism because atheism is a rock that will broken to pieces. If God did not exist, there would be no basis or foundation for atheism.



They will run from a stranger because they do not recognize his voice.-Jesus

Buddha is simply an idol that does not speak or hear. However I can make substantial claim that Jesus spoke the truth. IMO



Idolatry.


true, but whose Word has the most impact on humanity?