aa5874

You are merely repeating what you think. It is ALREADY known people make all sorts of claims about Jesus which are ILLOGICAL.

The Synoptics described Jesus as the Child of a Ghost and also acting as non-human or as Myth.

I don't know what Logics you have used to claim there may very well be an HJ when there very well may not be an HJ.

We have ZERO credible historical sources for HJ.

Virtually ALL EXTANT sources of antiquity have been exhausted and we are left with blatant forgeries and these forgeries are NOT about HJ they are about the Jesus the Jewish Messiah.

HJ was NOT a Messiah.

The Church writers used the forgeries in Josephus to corroborate the Jesus of Faith.

The authors of gMatthew and gLuke show that an historical Jesus was COMPLETELY unnecessary when they presented Jesus as the Child of a Holy Ghost and John the Baptist, Pilate, Tiberius, Caiaphas as men.

J-D

I did. I got dozens of results. So far not one of the ones I have looked at has been an example of somebody articulating an 'HJ theory' or a 'historical Jesus theory'.No, it's a place where people are allowed to ask questions, and people are allowed not to answer questions, and people are allowed to draw their own conclusions when people don't answer questions.I may. That's logically possible. Then again, I may not. That's also logically possible.

J-D

People make many claims which are false, and which can be known to be false, but which are not logically impossible.

Toto

avi - E is Elsewhere, the basement where threads of no redeeming social value can be dumped.

Chaucer

Among other places, it's been articulated here --

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=271751

and here --

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=304033

Cordially,

Chaucer

TedM

There is nothing illogical about choosing to believe part of a document and to not believe another part.

If someone tells you they went to the grocery store and when they were in the store they saw a man who was 9 feet tall are you going to immediately conclude that they didn't even go to the store?

aa5874

Now, this is logical.

People may also make many claims that are illogical, and which can be known and shown to be illogical.

The assumption that there was an HJ and that HJ was from Nazareth using unreliable sources where Jesus of Nazareth was described as a Child of a Ghost may be a false conclusion based on logical fallacies.

It is quite logical that if HJ is a false conclusion then it may have been produced by logical fallacies.

This is so basic and logical that I really don't understand what you are trying to achieve.

aa5874

Well, just tell me who said they saw Jesus of Nazareth anywhere in a grocery shop on earth while he was a live and I may believe part of the stories.

The authors of gMark, gMatthew, gLuke, gJohn, Acts of the Apostles, the Pauline writings, the epistles of the so-called Family of Jesus and Revelation did NOT say they saw Jesus anywhere on earth while he was alive and that is the part of story that I may have believed.

Please, who saw Jesus in the grocery shop or anywhere?

Not me.

J-D

Thanks.

Whether what you have to say in those threads is true or false, I don't see you making the assertions referred to by aa5874, nor do I see you arguing fallaciously.

Chaucer

Well, thank you for saying that.

Best,

Chaucer