BrianJ

Good to see you again.

This Velikovsky stuff is amazing. I read a few pages on the bus on the way home and we already have Venus flying past Earth and reversing Earth's rotation! Fire and plagues everywhere, pharaohs who have no idea what their names are, and the entire population of the planet all have a bout of amnesia at the same time!

I am sure he will support his claims somewhere in the book, won't he?

Cheers for now.

Brian.

Johann_Kaspar

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

I see that you will not care to read Anati. Better to remain ignorant so that you can keep your "truths". :wave:

Vorkosigan

Isn't it great? I loved it when I was 13.

:rolling: :rolling: That would be "no."

Vorkosigan

Celsus

Yes, but you see all it needs is a 10th planet that passes by every 10,000 years or so that crashes randomly into planets in our solar system. If we can't see it, it must be there. How else do you explain all those craters on the moon?
Hey! If you were named after some dodgy bloke with a dog's arse (or was that face?), you'd bloody well make sure everyone forgot your name and came up with a new one too. Just look at the Syrians who obviously changed their names to emphasise body parts (Telepinus, really ). And who can remember names like Amenthuteptenatptetshutmosephis* anyway?
You'll find it right next to the footnote about ancient cloning devices they found in Iraq (which of course is the real Whore of Babylon the prophets were upset about).
Yeah yeah, we already know you're better read than us, having grasped the greats at such a young age.

Joel

* slight exaggeration possible

Dean Anderson

You know, Velikovsky really doesn't get enough credit for starting this whole "Planet X" and "Nibiru" set of "alternate histories" and new-age "religions". Zechariah Sitchin, that well known Sumerian scholar, often gets credited with creating these stories out of whole cloth.

Of course, the Hancocks and Alfords that produce the modern derivatives of this stuff would rather reference Sitchin than Velikovsky because even they must admit that Velikovsky is a relatively well-known crackpot whereas their readers won't have heard about Sitchin unless they have done some research.

P.S. For a laugh - a modern view of Velikovsky's stuff (including everything from Sitchin's expansions on it to Icke's reptillians) is here.

Amaleq13

I love Zechariah Sitchin's work (as fiction)! I think it would make a great movie in the anime genre.

funinspace

So did Sitchin take his 12th planet tales seriously? Or was he just laughing it up? I actually found the book readable, which I thought impressive for a book pretending to be a serious look at history.

Dean Anderson

I don't know.

Like the best of the Creationists, it is impossible to tell whether he is a True Believer or simply out to make a fast buck by lying to people...

BrianJ

I loved Von Daniken when I was 13, by 14 I knew he was a nut.

Gzus!!! That was a waste of a few hours of my life!

This book ("Worlds in Collison"), must surely hold the record for the number of rhetorical questions in a book!

Page 18: Why did the Bronze Age precede the Iron Age even though Iron is more widely distributed over the world and its manufacture is simpler than that of the alloy of copper and tin? By what mechancial means were structures of immense blocks built on the high mountains of the Andes?

What caused the legends of the Flood to originate in all the countries of the world? (Which it doesnt of course) Is there any adequate meaning to the term 'antedeluvian'? From what experiences grew the eschatological pictures of the end of the world? Why did I fry my brain with LSD?

Page after page of rhetorical crap!

All joking aside, I honestly find it rather sad that an adult can take this stuff seriously. :huh:

Brian.

BrianJ

Hi WT,

Can I ask you again which of the two claims, Hydarnes and mine, would you say is the more accurate?

Cheers.

Brian.