outhouse

and that's where people are screwing this up

K.I.S.S.


its just the roman authors competing with roman emporer "son of gods" building in healing miracles, and fictitious crowds as a emporer would draw.

outhouse

that ties into general context of the created deity

stephan huller

So if its just a story rather than a mystic story and people like Mark where just "making shit up" why is the way Mark introduces and interweaves narratives so complex?

outhouse

said scribe, not mark, gets most of his information from oral tradition he has learned, probably multiple sources he is balancing to his liking meeting his personal beliefs.

he uses his artistic freedom to tell "his" legend, all based on very very limited knowledge of events surrounding a jewish teacher/healer that lived some 35 years in the past before the temple fell.

judaism and teh jewish culture had gone through soem serious changes by that point compared to when jesus lived.

not only that, the roman scribe didnt live anywhere near where jesus did, knew nothing of the culture, it reads like 100% mythology, because it is. there just happenens to be a historical core once the pieces are carefully examined

stephan huller

an American success story in the ancient world. Didn't happen that way, I am afraid. This isn't the story of Colonel Sanders. People wouldn't have flocked to a new religion of made up bullshit with out believing something was hidden inside the made up bullshit

It's the difference between art and Keeping up with the Kardashians.

sotto voce

The real clue is that this social phenomenon, if it existed, was a popular movement, that people believed because they did not believe bullshit; they believed in 'Handsome is as handsome does'. It was because this faith made a practical difference to people in their ordinary, unremarked, unrecorded lives that it got off the ground. That is the only satisfactory explanation for its success.

History was written about 'big' and important things, like wars and politics, and philosophies of the indolent, that usually affected nothing very much. Because Christianity was popular, it did not register. Because it opposed corruption in high places (as well as low), it was actually suppressed by the high corrupters, who had the power to burn written evidence as well as people. It was only when they could contain this popular movement no longer that they said, "if you can't beat 'em, join em." Though the imperial version of the church bore no resemblance whatever to the church that the founder began, except in the most superficial ways.

outhouse

all deities are made up, and the religions surrounding them.


it did happen that way, and when people read to far into it they get lost.


yes the OT influenced much of it but not every word.


its a different culture using jewiosh tradition changing it on the fly to meet their own cultural needs, the same exact way Israelites changed the previous religions that influenced them.


romans were flocking to judaism and worshipping in synagogues but were not converting, these are the unknown authors of the NT. they created mythology based on a jewish man they knew nothing about and this is evident.

outhouse

this movement took off due to desperation, it offered free health care and the mythology was glue that helped them see a light through their extreme misery.

roman belief was wide and varied after the first century, this one powerful deity and a son of such that would clean your sins made sense to a slight few, it however did evolve foward to one day take over.

all religions were created by men born of mythology and ignorance

stephan huller

The point isn't whether they are made up. It's to try and figure out why they became successful.

Cege

Someone asked on page 1 if the temple had a roof.

II Kings 6:9 So he built the temple and completed it, roofing it with beams and cedar planks.