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Old 04-24-2007, 01:14 PM   #121
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Here's something on the existence of God beyond faith. What if you have a personal experience that to you seems real in which God actually speaks with you (in a vision or some mental state), and that's your new reference that God exists?
See, problem here is that I've spoken to god, and he told me what he really is. So I don't give much credence to Christians who also have spoken to him, because I think they misunderstood his gist.
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:21 PM   #122
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Hear! Hear! Say it again, let's see the pictures and physical evidence!
Hear! Hear! Let's see the physical evidence that Chopin is a good musician.
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:28 PM   #123
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I had a Vision in which Cthulhu appeared to me and said that no other gods exist. Many used to, but he had eaten them already. He said Jesus tasted like chicken.
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:04 PM   #124
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Right. That photo is obviously a direct product of my imagination.
This thread is not entitled "What about photographs that prove the existence of God?" The OP was about personal experience and revelation in the context of Biblical beliefs, and that was the post I was responding to.
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:18 PM   #125
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Or are you just one of the messiahs whose sole job it is is to try and convince atheists that the pretty pictures seen in a bunch of clouds proves you're a messiah and that's all you're here for, because I must have missed that chapter and verse?
That was one of the canons accidentally left on the cutting room floor at Nicaea.
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I had a Vision in which Cthulhu appeared to me and said that no other gods exist. Many used to, but he had eaten them already. He said Jesus tasted like chicken.
Mmmmmm, junior.
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I had a Vision in which Cthulhu appeared to me and said that no other gods exist. Many used to, but he had eaten them already. He said Jesus tasted like chicken.
Hear that Lars, sounds like old Cthulhu has a taste for messiahs, if you have some magic power, I'd suggest you use it to disappear before Cthulhu wakes up and gets the munchies again.
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Mmmmmm, junior.
Oh man, I just had a crazy (wicked?) idea of going to a Catholic mass and taking a Mcdonald's barbecue sauce with me to dip the communion wafer in. That would piss someone off.
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:41 PM   #129
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Thanks for the explanation, and BELIEVE ME!, this board is far more open than most.
We try. Thanks.

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Judgment calls are inevitable. But sometimes...a decision is made to "error on the side of doubt."

For instance, I can assure you I indeed am the messiah.
My decision is to not believe you.
1/ I think the Messiah can do much better than getting his word out to everyone than over a message board.
2/ The Messiah should not have an "interpretation" of scripture. The first Messiah did after all say these things. One does not interpret his own words.

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I'm not crazy.
Neither was Charles Manson, the Son of Sam or Andrea Yates.

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And this is probably a test.
Jim Jones, David Koresh and the Heaven's Gate cult all failed their tests.

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You're judging me on what I've have shown you only.
I have no choice.

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But maybe I haven't told you EVERYTHING.
I really don't care to hear.

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Did you know there was more than one image that showed up in the clouds that day?
Go figure.

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Now according to the Bible, lots of people will eventually be convinced that indeed, the messiah is the messiah!
And how many have died due to false Messiah's? How many have had their hopes dashed when it doesn't come true?

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They come knocking on the door to to get into the kingdom.
Hopes of a better life than the non-existent, low or no self-esteem lives they live now. A sucker is born every minute and the bible seems to attract many of them. So do people that have the gift of gab and claim to be the Messiah.

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So something they weren't exposed to before, or some miracle occurs,
No miracles yet.

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But it doesn't do them any good as far as getting into the kingdom.
That's only because there is no Kingdom.

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See what I mean? Better to err on the side of doubt.
Pascal's Wager never solved anything. It even raises more questions than answers them.

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Because if I truly am the messiah, then it is likely that it's not me that is under examination here, but you. Right?
Wrong. You might get some gullible sap to believe you, but most people will examine your claims and come to some conclusion. God doesn't open the book of life until after we're dead.

I personally think you're pulling our legs.

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Oh man, I just had a crazy (wicked?) idea of going to a Catholic mass and taking a Mcdonald's barbecue sauce with me to dip the communion wafer in. That would piss someone off.
Me for a start!

Spending money at McDonalds is wrong!

People who act like assholes need sanctions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLibel

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