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Nothing in the below verses states that all the humans were now in Shinar. In fact it strongly suggests the opposite. Ge 10: 4 The descendants of Javan: Elishah, Tarshish, the Kittim, and the Rodanim. 5 These are the descendants of Japheth, and from them sprang the maritime nations, in their respective lands--each with its own language--by their clans within their nations. 6 The descendants of Ham: Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan. 7 The descendants of Cush: Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabteca. The descendants of Raamah: Sheba and Dedan. 8 Cush became the father of Nimrod, who was the first potentate on earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter by the grace of the LORD; hence the saying, "Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter by the grace of the LORD." 10 The chief cities of his kingdom were Babylon, Erech, and Accad, all of them in the land of Shinar. 11 From that land he went forth to Asshur, where he built Nineveh, Rehoboth-Ir, and Calah, 12 as well as Resen, between Nineveh and Calah, the latter being the principal city. 13 Mizraim became the father of the Ludim, the Anamim, the Lehabim, the Naphtuhim, 14 the Pathrusim, the Casluhim, and the Caphtorim from whom the Philistines sprang. 15 Canaan became the father of Sidon, his first-born, and of Heth; 16 also of the Jebusites, the Amorites, the Girgashites, 17 the Hivites, the Arkites, the Sinites, 18 the Arvadites, the Zemarites, and the Hamathites. Afterward, the clans of the Canaanites spread out, 19 so that the Canaanite borders extended from Sidon all the way to Gerar, near Gaza, and all the way to Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, near Lasha. Gen 11: 1 The whole world spoke the same language, using the same words. 2 While men were migrating in the east, they came upon a valley in the land of Shinar and settled there. 3 They said to one another, "Come, let us mold bricks and harden them with fire." They used bricks for stone, and bitumen for mortar. 4 Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the sky, and so make a name for ourselves; otherwise we shall be scattered all over the earth." 5 LORD came down to see the city and the tower that the men had built. 6 Then the LORD said: "If now, while they are one people, all speaking the same language, they have started to do this, nothing will later stop them from doing whatever they presume to do. 7 Let us then go down and there confuse their language, so that one will not understand what another says." 8 Thus the LORD scattered them from there all over the earth, and they stopped building the city. |
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I think the real question is that with the telephone, internet and translation software that humans have today, we can work together and collaborate in ways that the Babel's couldn't dream of. Is this why God's going to destroy the world again in three years, becuase we're getting all uppity and presuming too much again?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza Built c. 2560 B.C Great Pyramid was 280 Egyptian royal cubits tall, 146.6 meters, (480.97 feet) but with erosion and the loss of its pyramidion, its current height is 138.8*m (455 feet). http://www.bible-history.com/babylon...e_Ziggurat.htm The ziggurats were built on an immense scale: in the time of Hammurapi they would sometimes reach the height of 150 feet. Of course, ignorance is bliss.... This kind of reality is probably part of what convinced C.S. Lewis that some of the Grand miracles had to be just fantasy (maybe with a cup of value, but still fantasy) |
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I mean, seriously, you're suggesting they remember the tower but not the big pissed off skybeast in the clouds, and decided to invent Osiris, Isis, Ptah, Set... |
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The ziggurat eventually evolved into the cigarette which is now used by people of all tongues throughout the world just as the tower of babel was. Take note oh ye unbelievers.
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Then you agree with the Bible, that's good. |
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Man, to think that I was always taught that the reason that multiple cultures built pyramids had to do with the fact that they used relatively soft, heavy building materials that would crack under their own weight if the structure didn't have a wide base. Boy was I misled... |
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