Ken Brown

Hi Everyone, I thought I would start a thread about "The Strong Delusion." What are everyone's thoughts concerning it? Thanks. KB

Toto

I think this is not the right place, if you are referring to this site:

The strong delusion:

jakejonesiv

I find it uplifting and fulfilling. (not)

2 Thessalonians chapter 2
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

mountainman

Did Emperor Julian interpolate Paul's letters?

wordy

I trust that Protestants see the Roman Catholic Church as the strong delusion

Sheshbazzar

"she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."
"the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication."

She is 'The MOTHER' Whore, and all of her daughters are also whores, just like their mother.
They have all fornicated with the kings of the earth in the same bed.

The delusion is of anyone blind and stupid enough to drink of their cup, and swallow their line of religious horse shit.

John knew.

Ken Brown

Hi Toto, no, I wasn't referencing that site, but yes, I was thinking along the lines of those Scriptures.

For myself, I see a "strong delusion" upon those who think that to justify the wicked, it takes murdering or the killing of the innocent and righteous. This is the "strong delusion" I was referring to. More or less, the only way forgiveness can be achieved is to put the righteous and innocent to death in the place of the wicked. Isn't this delusional thinking? KB

Toto

That does sound like delusional thinking to me, but is this the same "strong delusion" that is referred to in II Thessalonians?

Why did you use that particular phrase?

Ken Brown

Hi Toto, yes, I was referring to II Thessalonians. I just feel that belief in the killing of the innocent and the righteous, just so that the wicked could have a substitute taking their place and paying the penalty of their wickedness, is delusional. Those who have the belief that JUSTICE requires that the wicked have an innocent and righteous one die in their place and pay for their sin are most definitely under a "strong delusion." The soul that sins shall die. KB

Toto

You seem to be describing Christianity here - the idea that the innocent and righteous Jesus died in place of the wicked to pay for their sins.

It seems unlikely that the author of II Thessalonians meant to refer to Christianity as a "strong delusion" - don't you think?