J-D

I made a claim that some things might have happened, so if it's true that those things might have happened (even if it's also true that they might not have happened), then my claim is vindicated, even if some other claims are not vindicated.

Sheshbazzar

You forget, or misrepresent J-D's so oft repeated statement?
'MIGHT or MIGHT NOT be an accurate report....'
It is up to you to SHOW that it CANNOT be an accurate report.
J-D his-self has not stated that this verse is an accurate report, or not an accurate report.
If you wish to deny it as an accurate report of an actual event, that onus is on YOU. No one else.
If you can't, you got no case against J-D's point regarding the possibilities.

The POINT being that neither he, nor YOU have any way of determining whether a real living flesh and blood human Jebus ever went into Jerusalem and entered into The Temple, or not. Or whether there was a real living flesh and blood human Jebus, or not.
The books are false, they prove nothing one way or the other.

But YOU have no way of knowing what may or may not have really happened.

And the belief that 'something' happened HAS been relevant for near 2000 years, causing incalculable human mayhem and misery.
If it were really IRRELEVANT neither of us would be here, and this Forum would not exist.

aa5874

The fact that you claim something MIGHT or MIGHT NOT have happened is because you DON'T know if it did.

You cannot be vindicated when you have NO way of knowing if the event really happened.

aa5874

I can ONLY tell you the things I KNOW.

I can tell you without hesitation that Jesus was described as a PHANTOM in gMark 6.48-49 and 9.2-3.

I can tell you WITHOUT hesitation that the sea-water walking and the Transfiguration with the resurrected Moses and Elijah did NOT happen as described.

I can tell you that gMark is a Myth Fable as PRESENTED.

J-D

If I claim to have no way of knowing, and if it turns out to be true that I have no way of knowing, then my claim is vindicated.

aa5874

How will you ever know that?

J-D

my father moved through dooms of love
through sames of am through haves of give,
singing each morning out of each night
my father moved through depths of height

Sheshbazzar

Yes he can. The accuracy of his statement does not depend upon him knowing if any particular event really happened. It is not an assertion.
Whereas YOU have made mutltiple assertions regarding particular events not being accurate accounts.
Thus you were asked if Jebus ever walked in Jerusalem or entered into The Temple. A positive, or a negative answer, would only reflect your personal opinions.
You were not there. You don't know. But you do know, and admit that your texts lie. Your logic is based on using lies.
But if you are going to use the content of those lying texts to assert that he -did not- walk in Jerusalem or enter The Temple, that onus is entirely upon you.

J-D's argument stands and is vidicated, because he has made no such absolute assertions regarding any text or events.

aa5874

Mark 9.2-4

J-D

this motionless forgetful where
turned at his glance to shining here;
that if(so timid air is firm)
under his eyes would stir and squirm