jon-eli

I'm not making excuses for the guy... But don't you think that if Craig were to give it up, someone else wouldn't just step into the vacuum? There is great demand for someone who can assuage fundamentalist beliefs, provide an apologetical basis for their rejection of all things sensible, make them feel cozy and safe. On some level, doesn't someone have to do it? We don't tend to blame hookers for the emotional state of their clients, do we? And we never suppose that sex-for-hire is something that people will stop desiring if the supply is removed... Isn't Craig just providing a warm blanket for those people who need it? I just don't know if he necessarily deserves the amount the acid that gets thrown his way.

Toto

Craig has a particular mission, for which he is well paid. He goes on to college campuses and lets young Christian students know that smart people can be Christians, and they don't need to question their childhood faith just because they are now grown up and should be questioning everything.

His mission is not to the Skeptics, but to the Christians. I don't know of a single skeptic who has been converted by Craig, but there are lots of Christians who seem to rely on him to justify their beliefs.

And if you look for the funding that supports his mission, it goes back to the same sources as fund all right wing conservative movements.

Julio

Yes, the conundrum is resolved with that logic.
There was one guy saying that some other one told him that he had heard a story mentioning a religious guy saying that he heard about the resurrection of somebody from a far away land.
Now, since it was to be converted into a business and commerce, naturally four or even twenty would take part in the forgery.
You believe religious jargon in manuscripts with unknown authors at your own peril.
The gospels are forgeries, handwritten and hand-composed, and hand-changed.

Susan2

Ecclesiastes 10:19. A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.


It’s that or back to the barter system, negotiation. If money is power, is money the root of all evil as Paul taught? If money can be the root of all evil, can it also be the root of all good?

There is only x amount of dollars/money that exist/is minted, x amount of precious metals, x amount of land in a finite world. Don’t share it, grab it. One famous star said, ‘I make a vulgar amount of money for what I do’. Does she?

I heard another famous star say something just this morning that make me say, ‘Hmm..........

When millions, billions and trillions of dollars go over here ----> do they create a negative here <------ in a finite world? Is this why the desperate are taught to believe in an infinite world?

It seems to me that the verses you quote also highlight traditional antisemitism. But in today’s reality we know that ‘greed’ is no respecter of persons, nor is racism, discrimination, sexism, and can overtake anyone of us.


Do you think he took the money and ran?

Which way did Jesus go; —> or <-----. You don’t think that they brought all that mint to the tomb for nothing do you? Like father like son? How far does the apple fall from the tree, well that is, without the interference of Paul upon the uninitiated?

I wonder what Mary did with that gold the magi brought her? Do you think she was forced to give it to Joseph, or was she allowed to keep it as her inheritance? Did Joseph take the money and run?

Ugly stuff, though one sure tries to find the good. Do you think good people exist in all these tent cities popping up in America? I wonder if they have tent cities in Connecticut, or on capital hill, or wall street, Hollywood, Memphis, Motown yada, yada?

Keep them stupid Joseph, and when that don’t work, addict them, and when that don’t work, abuse them. Scriptures in a nut shell by rich, powerful, snakes.

Make them hate one another, that works too.

Since Craig is a Bible scholar, by not revealing any of the above Lets keep this fair Joseph..........

And Mr. Carrier? What say you? Are you still an atheist? A skeptic, or are you a believer too?

How about you Joseph? Which are you?


Where would he have learnt that?


If Craig lacks any intellectual honesty perhaps it is because he doesn’t know the truth, or he’s lying. Lots of Christians lie. There are some that honestly don't or didn't know, and there are some that do. The same can be said for any religion, and that would include atheists too.




That would be the same source that funds all left wing liberal movements, believers, whether theist or atheist. If one can do it can the other, like father like son? One hand washes the other, or shakes the other? Instructs?

Is there any such thing as a ‘choosey’ lobbyist, or is it just a job to them? :constern01: