mountainman

Dear GakuseiDon,

In a very literary fashion, lavishly and Frankenstein like.

Best wishes,


Pete

aa5874

I just cannot release (cannot ignore) Eusebius and Tertullian, they appear to know a lot about Paul and Jesus and the Church. They must remain in custody (are to be researched and questioned extensively) until they talk.

Sheshbazzar

You could have another 100,000 pages of their propaganda tripe, and it would still prove absolutely nothing about what actually transpired.
What do you want to hear? their continuators stand ever ready to continue the making up of otherwise unknown christian "history" to order.

spamandham

Useless and baseless are not the same thing.

By the way, your 0% assertion is just as useless as my 20% assertion, and is also baseless. It is not impossible for there to be a historical core to Jesus. It is not even impossible for Jesus as depicted in the NT to have existed.

spamandham

...from a couple of posts ago

A composite character, such as Paul is argued to be by certain radical scholars, has multiple historical cores. I don't see a problem with that. The concept of a historical core is that there may be real history underlying a legend, and it's a game of Clue to try to figure out what the simplest explanation is.

If it turns out that real history involves multiple critical people, that's ok.

aa5874

Now, come on.

If you were an investigator and you had in your custody, or held for questioninng, some-one who you think committed a crime, would you release that person of interest because they lied about events with respect to the crime or their location?

No way.

You would keep on questionning that person of interest. You would want to know the reason why that person was making false statements about the crime or their whereabouts.

Hopefully if you listen carefully and ask the right questions, you just might realise that you actually have a confession.

To ignore Eusebius and Tertullian may mean ignoring the manufacturers of the NT.

Please listen carefully to Eusebius and Tertullian, we may have a confession on our hands.

aa5874

Another useless statement.

You cannot prove that it is possible that Jesus of the NT can ascend through clouds and that it was witnessed by his disciples.

You cannot prove it is possible that Peter, James and John witnessed the transfiguration of Jesus and witnesses dead prophets come back to life after being dead for hundreds of years.

You cannot prove it is possible that Jesus was born of a virgin and conceived through the Holy Ghost as witnessed by his mother Mary.

You cannot prove it is possible that Jesus walked on the sea during a sea-storm as witnessed by Peter who also attempted to walk on water.

And you cannot prove that it is possible that Jesus was dead for three days as stated by the authors of the NT and that he rose from the dead, with his wounds all healed and having only scars as witnessed by the disciples.

You cannot prove Jesus of the NT was possible. You can only say Jesus was possible.

Jesus of the NT was impossible.

All things impossible have NO evidence of their possibility.

spamandham

Certainly I can prove it's possible. Most everyone here other than you, will comprehend this proof:

Imagine for a moment, Jesus floating up into the clouds. Further, imagine his disciples witnessing it. What internal contradictions did that excercise involve? If none, then it is logically possible. It just isn't likely, because we do not observe things like that happening. You can estimate the probability as close to zero as you like, but you can not consistently claim it is identically 0 (impossible), because the scenario involves no internal contradictions.

Sheshbazzar

As far as I'm concerned they have perjured themselves repeatedly, they have already been questioned at long length, they are no longer "persons of interest" and are no longer being detained for questioning, but rather are now safely locked away for the welfare and safety of all society, just awaiting trial, judgment, and sentencing.

Personally, I am convinced that the jury will find them guilty on all counts, and The Judge will throw The Book at them, and they will be put away for a long, looooong time.
just metamorphically speaking, you understand?

Sheshbazzar

And given the twisted reasoning employed by their cohorts, when these have been rounded up and brought before The Bar of Justice,
Eusebius, Tertullian and Constantine will have lots of company in that place.