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Old 10-25-2005, 02:56 PM   #61
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Please excuse my English mistakes.
I have a translator for my web site but the amount of correspondence is increasing to such a degree that I have to take care of it by myself.

Thank you for your attention,
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Fair enough. We have a lot of trouble with people who don't understand copyright law, so I hope you'll forgive my suspicion. As an author, I hope you'll appreciate the seriousness with which we take copyright and standards of attribution.
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The numbers inside the handle "PoodleLovinPessimist" are just as amazing as, if not more so than, the numbers inside of Elohim.
Quite.

Bear with me....

A=1, B=2, ..., Z=26

There are *20* letters in PoodleLovinPessimist.

Add up the letters and you get *268*.

Now consider the following Proof of PoodleLovinPessimist's Divinity from Christian Symbolism:

Each and every individual is surrounded by Good and Evil, the two forces of opposite sign:

666 + 1 - 268 (which gives 399, the Number of Temptation).

Add the Number of the Beast to the Number of Temptation, you get 666 + 399 = 1065, the Number of Sin.

Subtract from the Number of Temptation, the Holy Trinity, symbolized here by 3 (Trinity) times 20 (the number of letters in PoodleLovinPessimist) - you get 339, the Number of Atonement.

Guess what you get when you divide the Number of Sin by the Number of Atonement....

1065 / 339 = 3.141592......

Which is Pi to *six* places (instead of the measly four in Elohim).

... Which proves beyond reasonable doubt that PoodleLovinPessimist is, in fact, the One True God. Note that this proof needs a lot less unsupported assumptions than the Elohim 'proof' ... Also, the argument is soundly supported by well-established theology.

PoodleLovinPessimist, I submit myself to Your Grace.... :angel:
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Quite.

Bear with me....

A=1, B=2, ..., Z=26

There are *20* letters in PoodleLovinPessimist.

Add up the letters and you get *268*.

Now consider the following Proof of PoodleLovinPessimist's Divinity from Christian Symbolism:

Each and every individual is surrounded by Good and Evil, the two forces of opposite sign:

666 + 1 - 268 (which gives 399, the Number of Temptation).

Add the Number of the Beast to the Number of Temptation, you get 666 + 399 = 1065, the Number of Sin.

Subtract from the Number of Temptation, the Holy Trinity, symbolized here by 3 (Trinity) times 20 (the number of letters in PoodleLovinPessimist) - you get 339, the Number of Atonement.

Guess what you get when you divide the Number of Sin by the Number of Atonement....

1065 / 339 = 3.141592......

Which is Pi to *six* places (instead of the measly four in Elohim).

... Which proves beyond reasonable doubt that PoodleLovinPessimist is, in fact, the One True God. Note that this proof needs a lot less unsupported assumptions than the Elohim 'proof' ... Also, the argument is soundly supported by well-established theology.

PoodleLovinPessimist, I submit myself to Your Grace.... :angel:

Well, shit. I'm convinced!
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Well, shit. I'm convinced!
So am I... which kind of scares me!

Now I'm going to have to buy a bunch of robes. I look terrible in robes.
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Wait, so Mithras is the Sun God and PoodleLovinPessimist is the one true god? That doesn't sound compatible. Something must be wrong with our calculations! =O
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Wait, so Mithras is the Sun God and PoodleLovinPessimist is the one true god? That doesn't sound compatible. Something must be wrong with our calculations! =O
Numerology is wonderful. Like any religion, it can prove anything, but unlike religion, you don't need to be a theologian to play.

I can still remember the marvelous scene in War and Peace where Pierre spends hours and hours while Moscow is burning around him to figure out that his name (with proper substitutions, of course) means he will defeat Napoleon.
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Correction: Mithras is the Son (of) God and PLP is the one true god.

Also, calculus can approximate pi to a hell of a lot more dp than any of the examples used above. Shall we bow down and worship infinite series, then?
What about natural logarithms? Maybe the son of god was crucified not on a cross, but on the cross product vectors ln2i and ln2j.
Meaning the crucifix has a value on ln2z
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Fair enough. We have a lot of trouble with people who don't understand copyright law, so I hope you'll forgive my suspicion. As an author, I hope you'll appreciate the seriousness with which we take copyright and standards of attribution.
surely

I have appreciated your criticisms

your criticisms are very useful for me

thanks you
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You're wasting your time with this apporoach. Arguments for divine inspiration based on numerology or codes are a dead-end street.
I agree with you that numerology doesn't show anything

The Godel’s Incompleteness Theorem can be proper to show this
Kurt Godel (1906 Brno -1978)

I have never said that I believe in the numerology

I have not affirmed that numerology shows my affirmations

I have simply affirmed this :

Therefore, the uniqueness of the name Elohim is amply shown and the mere thought that a hypothetical sacred human author

could have guessed such a word by pure chance with the odds of only one against 5,153,631, is really unacceptable.

In conclusion, the scientific proof on the Biblical Pi and on the uniqueness of the name Elohim, that we have just reported, like in the case of the ELS, leads us to exclude both the documentary hypothesis and any other hypothesis of human origin of the Holy Scripture, even if divinely inspired.

The improbability of a message determines its informative content :

surprising messages contain more information

expected messages contain less information

these concepts are among the fundaments of the information theory of Claude Shannon

(Shannon, Claude Elwood, 1916–2001, American mathematician and father of information theory )
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I agree with you that numerology doesn't show anything
So why are you trying to show something by using numerology on a name?

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I have never said that I believe in the numerology
So why are you trying to show something by using numerology on a name?

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I have not affirmed that numerology shows my affirmations
So why are you trying to show something by using numerology on a name?

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I have simply affirmed this :

Therefore, the uniqueness of the name Elohim is amply shown and the mere thought that a hypothetical sacred human author

could have guessed such a word by pure chance with the odds of only one against 5,153,631, is really unacceptable.
You're attaching a uniqueness to the name, based on numerology. Again, why are you trying to show something by using numerology on a name?

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In conclusion, the scientific proof on the Biblical Pi
Which is wrong.

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and on the uniqueness of the name Elohim, that we have just reported, like in the case of the ELS, leads us to exclude both the documentary hypothesis and any other hypothesis of human origin of the Holy Scripture, even if divinely inspired.
Nope, it just means that by representing the name as numbers, and then performing some arbitrary calculations, you've shown that the name meets these arbitrary calculations.

Why are the numbers added together? Who decided that adding them together is the right way to do things? Why not multiplication? Division? Subtraction? Parameters to a quadratic equation? Parameters to a second order differential equation?

By the way, the six letter word Elohim is unique. Just like every other word. The only rational conclusion I can draw from all this rubbish is that Elohim (whoever he was) was a triangle.
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